Our Gas Free Miles Travelled

[sandange]

11 months Later (edited ,My Mistake just checked our sales contract date)
33,080 km, 20,555 miles with out a hick up
or an air/oil, oil filter change.

We've managed to put more km/miles on the Miev in 11 months, than we were putting on our ice Fit in a year.

Seems since the cost of fuel/energy is not an issue with the Mieve we don't think twice about hopping in and going places

Time spent charging has not been a deterrent. (mostly level 2)

Having upgraded the original charger, I just put together a 50' long, 240V, #12 gauge extension cord and made up several pigtail adapters for more opportunity charging options, (Dryer outlet, etc) .
Traveling destinations/options can only get better.

 

[Llecentaur]

7000 km in 6 months. I regret having kept my Jag as a backup, only drove it twice since the Czero came in. Both times because of maintenance reasons !

Have two EVSEs 8 & 10amp @240v, hesitating to upgrade one in order to have more choices regarding charging amps. But I realize that higher amps than 10 will be rarely used. Moreover I often use 20 meter extension (fully extended to avoid heating) and doubt it can take more than 11 amps without risking damage to the insulation (rating is 10A).

Anyone has an opinion on the margins of security of electrical cabling ratings. If rated 10Amp, I am fairly convinced 11 amp should be OK. But what about 13A? I guess it will depend on temperature and how long it would be used at high amp ?

 

[DogMan12]

Seems since the cost of fuel/energy is not an issue with the Mieve we don't think twice about hopping in and going places

I am only at 400 miles, but I had a change of attitude yesterday. I had been feathering my way around, squeezing every mile. Then I got my EVSE Upgrade, so overnight I can top off from 4 bars. I thought: " What the hell, drive it! It will cost you an extra 3 cents!"

It's gonna be 100 F for a few days, we'll see what A/C does to the range.

 

[BillThompsonMIEV]

DogMan12:

While electricity is cheap in comparison to gasoline, it isn't free. My average cost per mile for electricity is slightly under .03 cents per mile after 2,000 miles driven. Bill.

 

[DogMan12]

Right, of course, Bill. I'm in .075/kwh country, so I am at a little over .02/mile wall to wheels. Over my 32 mile commute, I can spend 70 cents feathering it, or 80 cents driving with a litle more verve. My Ford Escort costs $3.50 if I am careful, and $4.00 if I am not.

 

[MLucas]

Right, of course, Bill. I'm in .075/kwh country, so I am at a little over .02/mile wall to wheels. Over my 32 mile commute, I can spend 70 cents feathering it, or 80 cents driving with a litle more verve. My Ford Escort costs $3.50 if I am careful, and $4.00 if I am not.

Unless you need the range, DRIVE IT! It's a lot of fun to give this car a go. On weekends, I throw out my hypermiling ways and just have some fun. Only when I'm going to work do I slow down and use some hypermiling techniques. Why rush going to work?

 

[alohart]

I'm in .075/kwh country, so I am at a little over .02/mile wall to wheels.

Another facit of the "Price of Paradise": >$0.30/kWh electricity :evil: I'm jealous of your cheap electricity. Fuel costs would actually be less if I drove my 2000 Honda Insight in Honolulu compared with driving my i-MiEV, but I save far more money driving my Insight in Sweden where gasoline is expensive but electricity is cheap. So the difference between electricity and gasoline costs really affects the cost calculation.

 

[aarond12]

It's gonna be 100 F for a few days, we'll see what A/C does to the range.

Here in Dallas, we've already had some days near 100°F. Today's supposed to be 100°F and tomorrow's supposed to be 104°F (40°C). The air conditioning takes about 30 seconds to really kick in, but when it does, it's COLD!

I've noticed a tiny bit of range degradation using the A/C. At a standstill, the Power/Charge meter is just barely at the bottom of the white line near ECO. One thing I have noticed is that the A/C fan is LOUD! Not louder than an ICE's A/C fan, but compared to the near-silence of our car, it's noticeable.

I've also noticed a tiny bit of vibration in the steering wheel when the A/C compressor is running. I'm not sure if something's a little off balance or what, but the A/C still works fine so I'm not concerned.

 

[sandange]

Today is the 1st Year Anniversary of owning our i Miev

We have a total of 36,263 km ( 22,533 Miles)

Without any major problems

1 software update and the brake pump recall
Experienced 1 flat tire and bent rim

 

[sandange]

13 months later

39,514 km ( 24,553 miles)
And still kicking with out missing a beat

 

[fjpod]

13 months later

39,514 km ( 24,553 miles)
And still kicking with out missing a beat

Are you still getting roughly the same range on a full charge?

 

[sandange]

Are you still getting roughly the same range on a full charge?

Have not noticed any change in range to date

 

[RobbW]

At our 1-month anniversary this past Sunday, we had put on about 1,650 miles since taking delivery of our little Meepster. Compared to the Toyota Sienna minivan I WOULD have been driving if not for the i-MiEV, I have saved roughly 90 gallons of fuel. Given the average fuel price of around $3.90 per gallon in my neck of the Chicagoland woods, I have saved right around $350 in fuel costs in the month we have owned our EV. I have not yet received our first electric bill that would include the first month of i-MiEV ownership to see what kind of increase in electric costs we will have. So, I do not yet know our net savings for driving EV vs. ICE. I'll update once I get that info.

 

[jray3]

Thanks Robb- have you noticed the iMiEV getting any more usage than your previous car did? No joyrides here, but since our i is so much more enjoyable to drive, the minivan has been demoted to long road trip and standby service, while the wife n I tag-team in the i. Whoever is driving the farthest that day (or leaving first in some cases takes the i. That way we've accumulated over 25k electric miles in 20 months, while the minivan often goes a week without use.

We're delEVering the kids to grandma's house this weekend for the last two weeks of summer, and it'll be the first serious family highway trip in the iMiEV. That 360 mile round trip alone should save $66 in gas, and since Blink can't figure out pricing strategy for CHAdeMO (on their way to bankruptcy), the quick charges are still free! Due to less-than-ideal spacing of QC stations, I'll be making four stops in 180 miles, as I'd rather add a short 16 mile leg rather than attempt 58 highway miles with 80% SOC! On the way home, we may try that long leg on secondary roads or do a 100% 'double pump' recharge over a meal...

 

[MLucas]

Are you still getting roughly the same range on a full charge?

Have not noticed any change in range to date

Now that I have my MiEVCan hooked up and can look into some of the info inside the car, I find that a 100% charge delivers 360V when I roll out of the driveway in the morning. I'm thinking with 88 cells dividing by that 360V gives me about 4V per cell. That sounds like I have not lost much if anything at all in capacity and range. I'm actually able to roll into the parking lot at work with less energy used than I did last year due to more efficient driving techniques.

 

[Don]

The 'charge to' voltage of the pack should stay constant as the battery ages. You can't tell anything about capacity by monitoring the voltage - Even if the pack has lost 20% or more of it's capacity, you should still be seeing that same 360 volts after a recharge

Don

 

[RobbW]

Thanks Robb- have you noticed the iMiEV getting any more usage than your previous car did? No joyrides here, but since our i is so much more enjoyable to drive, the minivan has been demoted to long road trip and standby service, while the wife n I tag-team in the i. Whoever is driving the farthest that day (or leaving first in some cases takes the i. That way we've accumulated over 25k electric miles in 20 months, while the minivan often goes a week without use.

As a matter of fact, yes! Our minivan has been wearing its pouty, abandoned face lately. Before the miev, I actually used to love driving the minivan. It seemed rather luxurious with its leather heated seats, rear DVD entertainment system, in-dash navigation and premium stereo, power everything and what not. Other than the crappy MPGs, it was a dream to drive. Now that we have the miev, I loathe to drive the minivan. It feels like a big, awkward tank driving down the road. It sits lonely and outcast in the driveway at night plotting its revenge. She only gets used for our very rare long trips or if we need to haul anything around. I've put gas in her once since we bought the miev and have only driven her twice. The miev is so much fun to drive, and she gets lots of attention. Plus, it's nice not having to flush my paycheck down a gas tank nearly twice a week anymore!

 

[RobbW]

I have not yet received our first electric bill that would include the first month of i-MiEV ownership to see what kind of increase in electric costs we will have. So, I do not yet know our net savings for driving EV vs. ICE. I'll update once I get that info.

Okay, so today we received our first full-month electric bill since purchasing our i-MiEV. Annnnnnnnd, the difference in electric usage and expense from NOT owning an EV to OWNING and EV isssssssssss... drum roll please......

No change whatsoever! No, seriously, I mean that. No change whatsoever! And I don't mean that facetiously or as in the change in usage was so insignificant it's not even worth calling it a change in usage. My current bill is EXACTLY the same as the previous month... TO THE PENNY... TO THE KWH!!!

My service bill from 06/13/2013 to 07/16/2013 was $127.32 with 1,357 kWh of usage.

My service bill from 07/16/2013 to 08/14/2013 was $127.32 with 1,357 kWh of usage.

And, no, one of these was not an estimate. Each bill shows that the beginning and ending meter readings were actual meter readings, not estimates.

What are the chances of two consecutive electric bills being exactly the same down to the penny and the kWh usage??? Of course, the August bill is for a service period four days shorter than the July bill. So, if all things WERE equal, I would expect there to be a slight increase in usage from one month to the next. But even so, it's nowhere near the $30 or so increase I was expecting. Go figure!

 

[Don]

Given the 4 fewer days and an average of just under $4 per day, it looks like you actually spent about $15 charging the car . . . . . all things being equal, which they probably weren't - Your wife may have done a couple extra loads of laundry in the first bill vs the last, so the difference could be a little larger

If you're averaging 4.5 miles to the Kwh, you can divide the miles driven to get the Kwh used and then multiply that by your electricity cost to get a more accurate number for the cost of the juice you used. It looks like your juice costs you about 9.3 cents per Kwh, which is pretty cheap

Given the 9.3 cents, you're spending *about* $20 to go 1,000 miles . . . . assuming you're getting 4.5 miles to the Kwh

Don

 

[BarryP]

My current bill is EXACTLY the same as the previous month... TO THE PENNY... TO THE KWH!!!

What are the chances of two consecutive electric bills being exactly the same down to the penny and the kWh usage???

Pretty high. Three years ago I moved from IL to ID. I lived in IL for 13 years. This is what I noticed with my IL utility: I would have the same bill for 4 months! Then the meter reader would come around and update it. Thus they guessed at my meter reading for 4 months. So the 5th month usually went down. It was a bummer because when they showed what I used 1 year ago, it’s not an actual comparison. I’m guessing you’ll have to wait a few months to see the real update.
-Barry