Vike
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I'll apologize if this overlaps an existing topic, but the forum wouldn't let me search for "public charging". This is an issue that seems to be of increasing importance, though, and I thought it worth a fresh discussion.
I got into an exchange over at plugincars.com last week surrounding an article they'd posted on the evolving etiquette of the public charging infrastructure. My comments were mainly about whether it's really true that PHEVs like the Volt have just as much right to use public charging stations as BEVs like the LEAF or i-MiEV. I did ramble on, but I think there are at least a few points in all that worth pondering, so here's that (I'm vike1108 there):
http://www.plugincars.com/eight-rules-electric-vehicle-etiquette-127513.html
My primary counterpart in this conversation uses the handle Joule Thief (I think he finally gave up on me), though there are a few interesting points made by other Volt owners.
My main point is that asserting "rights" is less productive than considering "shoulds". A PHEV driver focused on his "right" to use a public charger, and complaining about being unplugged by a BEV driver who "just shows up expecting a charge," is failing to consider that he's implicitly saying BEV drivers "should" limit their travels to their battery range, emergencies excepted, while PHEV drivers "should" be free to drive and charge wherever and whenever they like. If you claim to be interested in increasing electrification of the U.S. personal vehicle fleet, you should find that pretty toxic reasoning.
A couple of years back, before any of this was discussed, and at a time when I was myself considering leasing a Volt, it would have struck me as completely uncontroversial to assert that public chargers exist primarily to extend the effective range and utility of BEVs, and only secondarily to allow PHEVs to operate in EV mode as much as possible. I wasn't sure how to manage that really, but certainly the idea that PHEVs should only be using public chargers, even paid ones, when there are no BEVs waiting for them was just basic polite common sense. Surely, I would have thought, a PHEV can and should be unplugged if a BEV needs to charge; if that's physically not feasible, then the PHEV probably shouldn't be charging there at all. And seriously, this was how I would have expected things to go if I was driving a Volt.
Well, in our brave new world of actual EV sales and actual charging networks (and not just in California!), ideas that I once thought uncontroversial are now not only questioned but ridiculed and dismissed. At first, I thought that the real problem was free or complimentary charging (as opposed to paid by the hour or via subscription/membership), and the unfortunate incentives that created for abuse by PHEVs and BEVs alike (if I have an opportunity to drive for free, why not take it?). I figured that once chargers had to be paid for, nearly any system worth running would push up the cost of charging to near or over the cost of gassing up, making public chargers unattractive for PHEVs. Hey, problem solved - a scarce resource rationally allocated by the magic of the market.
But as you follow my exchange with Joule Thief (at above link), a whole new problem comes up - green-minded folks who see the Volt as an opportunity to drive electric without range anxiety or the need to rent a car for road trips, and want to drive electric as much as possible. Because of their more limited EV range, public chargers are in that sense even more "necessary" for them than BEVs. As EV enthusiasts, we are certainly sympathetic to this perspective. But if it were to be a common one among Volt buyers, so much of the public charging infrastructure may be so often occupied/unavailable that it will cease to be a reliable resource for charging BEVs, so greatly reducing the market for them.
Now bringing this discussion to an all-BEV (or BEV interested) forum, what are thoughts here? Is it wrong for BEVs to view the public charging infrastructure primarily as a resource for extending the effective range of our cars? If so, are we bound to limit our travels to internal battery range and current SOC, removing "opportunity charging" from consideration? And if you don't think so, what do you see happening if thousands of PHEVs, which we expect to be more numerous for some time to come, are allowed to tie up access to public chargers?
My own position is that in an ideal world, BEVs would have priority in accessing chargers, but idle chargers should be available for use by PHEVs. We really do want PHEVs running as EVs as much as possible, but not at the expense of discouraging the sale and use of BEVs. I do realize there are some practical problems in making that work - mainly, how does a BEV "bump" a PHEV that's already charging? But if PHEV owners like Joule Thief insist that they have a "first come, first serve" RIGHT to use public charging, if they don't choose to defer to BEV drivers who need to charge to finish their errands, just get home, or perhaps something even more urgent, I'm afraid we're just waiting for the wrong set of circumstances to lead to tragedy. At least one Volter in that plugincars.com forum thought a punch in the mouth was appropriate for anyone that unplugged his car , and in a heavily armed society that attitude could prove lethal.
I got into an exchange over at plugincars.com last week surrounding an article they'd posted on the evolving etiquette of the public charging infrastructure. My comments were mainly about whether it's really true that PHEVs like the Volt have just as much right to use public charging stations as BEVs like the LEAF or i-MiEV. I did ramble on, but I think there are at least a few points in all that worth pondering, so here's that (I'm vike1108 there):
http://www.plugincars.com/eight-rules-electric-vehicle-etiquette-127513.html
My primary counterpart in this conversation uses the handle Joule Thief (I think he finally gave up on me), though there are a few interesting points made by other Volt owners.
My main point is that asserting "rights" is less productive than considering "shoulds". A PHEV driver focused on his "right" to use a public charger, and complaining about being unplugged by a BEV driver who "just shows up expecting a charge," is failing to consider that he's implicitly saying BEV drivers "should" limit their travels to their battery range, emergencies excepted, while PHEV drivers "should" be free to drive and charge wherever and whenever they like. If you claim to be interested in increasing electrification of the U.S. personal vehicle fleet, you should find that pretty toxic reasoning.
A couple of years back, before any of this was discussed, and at a time when I was myself considering leasing a Volt, it would have struck me as completely uncontroversial to assert that public chargers exist primarily to extend the effective range and utility of BEVs, and only secondarily to allow PHEVs to operate in EV mode as much as possible. I wasn't sure how to manage that really, but certainly the idea that PHEVs should only be using public chargers, even paid ones, when there are no BEVs waiting for them was just basic polite common sense. Surely, I would have thought, a PHEV can and should be unplugged if a BEV needs to charge; if that's physically not feasible, then the PHEV probably shouldn't be charging there at all. And seriously, this was how I would have expected things to go if I was driving a Volt.
Well, in our brave new world of actual EV sales and actual charging networks (and not just in California!), ideas that I once thought uncontroversial are now not only questioned but ridiculed and dismissed. At first, I thought that the real problem was free or complimentary charging (as opposed to paid by the hour or via subscription/membership), and the unfortunate incentives that created for abuse by PHEVs and BEVs alike (if I have an opportunity to drive for free, why not take it?). I figured that once chargers had to be paid for, nearly any system worth running would push up the cost of charging to near or over the cost of gassing up, making public chargers unattractive for PHEVs. Hey, problem solved - a scarce resource rationally allocated by the magic of the market.
But as you follow my exchange with Joule Thief (at above link), a whole new problem comes up - green-minded folks who see the Volt as an opportunity to drive electric without range anxiety or the need to rent a car for road trips, and want to drive electric as much as possible. Because of their more limited EV range, public chargers are in that sense even more "necessary" for them than BEVs. As EV enthusiasts, we are certainly sympathetic to this perspective. But if it were to be a common one among Volt buyers, so much of the public charging infrastructure may be so often occupied/unavailable that it will cease to be a reliable resource for charging BEVs, so greatly reducing the market for them.
Now bringing this discussion to an all-BEV (or BEV interested) forum, what are thoughts here? Is it wrong for BEVs to view the public charging infrastructure primarily as a resource for extending the effective range of our cars? If so, are we bound to limit our travels to internal battery range and current SOC, removing "opportunity charging" from consideration? And if you don't think so, what do you see happening if thousands of PHEVs, which we expect to be more numerous for some time to come, are allowed to tie up access to public chargers?
My own position is that in an ideal world, BEVs would have priority in accessing chargers, but idle chargers should be available for use by PHEVs. We really do want PHEVs running as EVs as much as possible, but not at the expense of discouraging the sale and use of BEVs. I do realize there are some practical problems in making that work - mainly, how does a BEV "bump" a PHEV that's already charging? But if PHEV owners like Joule Thief insist that they have a "first come, first serve" RIGHT to use public charging, if they don't choose to defer to BEV drivers who need to charge to finish their errands, just get home, or perhaps something even more urgent, I'm afraid we're just waiting for the wrong set of circumstances to lead to tragedy. At least one Volter in that plugincars.com forum thought a punch in the mouth was appropriate for anyone that unplugged his car , and in a heavily armed society that attitude could prove lethal.