2011 OBC Compatible?

[HenriFred]

? Two capacitors in parallel results in double the capacitance of one.

The two capacitors are meant to be in parallel; they are C121 and C122:

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On the horrible daughter board with SMD capacitors, those are in some sort of series-parallel arrangement, but the reliability of those is so low that they should be replaced on sight with two "M&M" capacitors (preferably 3 kV voltage rated types, minimum 2 kV).

My guess for why they blow so frequently is the pair of inductors just past them. Something interrupts the current flow quickly (e.g. the 20 A fuse in the motor controller blows), and the energy from those two inductors goes mostly to those two capacitors. The instantaneous voltage could well be in the kilovolt range. Thinking about this, it's a good thing that these relatively cheap and accessible parts die, saving the way more expensive and near impossible to replace IGBTs and diodes.

They could have been a little bit more accessible for my taste in stead of packed in the black goey stuff

 

[MickeyS70]

Any possibility to check if the charger is faulty by measuring?

Not really, you need another type 1 EV or PHEV; do you know anybody with a Leaf or Outlander?

Either try his/her granny or use yours to try and charge their car…

 

[HenriFred]

No, i don't know anyone with such a car in Norway. Maybe i can try at the mitsubishi dealer this week.

 

[HenriFred]

Not really, you need another type 1 EV or PHEV; do you know anybody with a Leaf or Outlander?

Either try his/her granny or use yours to try and charge their car…

Hi, i was wondering. How much different are the OBC in the Mitsubishi Outlander?
They are much cheaper here.

https://openinverter.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Outlander_DCDC_OBC

 

[HenriFred]

My 2011 peugeot ion has an inverter (Mod. edit: OBC) which is non repairable.
Tried to solder 2 new capacitors but damaged the back of the circuit board.
Waa thinking to buy a used one but i could only find one with the same partnumber which was to expensive. I also read that thes older inverters (Mod. edit: OBCs) are bad in design so the same thing might happen after I'd buy a used one.
Does anyone know if it's possible to use a younger inverter (Mod. edit: OBC)?
If yes wich partnumbers might be compatible?
Kind regards,
Henri

I decided to take the safest way because i have become familiar with my old OBC. I managed to find a used part (not so easy in Norway) costing about $600.
I upgraded the caps which are not yet exploded which makes easier to solder the new ones. I used liquid isolation tape from Temu to fix them like the old ones. I now know the procedure since i read a lot on the forum. Thanks to everyone putting out posts

The only thing i am struggling with is the coolant change. I know it is in one of the posts but cannot find it.
I removed maybe 1 liter when removing the old OBC. But i read somewhere the system contains about 5 L.
Is it the same coolant system wich i see under the front bonnet?
How too bleed the system, fill it in the front or back?

 

[michael8554]

Section 14 "Cooling" in the workshop manual for everything about the coolant.

 

[HenriFred]

Section 14 "Cooling" in the workshop manual for everything about the coolant.

Thanks! Is there somewhere i can download it?

 

[MickeyS70]

Thanks! Is there somewhere i can download it?

Try this:
https://myimiev.com/threads/zipped-i-miev-ion-c-zero-2012-workshop-manual.4393/

 

[michael8554]

Blimey, I had assumed you had the workshop manual before you dived into all this !

 

[HenriFred]

Blimey, I had assumed you had the workshop manual before you dived into all this !

Get much info elsewhere on the internet too

 

[alviseven]

I changed the OBC and had the system down - like you did not really read manual before but its easier than you think and fill it up get the system running and any air will self bleed out then you can top up the fluid at the rear where one fills it. Not sure what the coolant is I managed to save the stuff from the donor car and my own so have a little spare.

 

[HenriFred]

Couldn't download that file. Most of them are from a russian website. I don't really trust it.
I got mine charging again today. Just topped of the coulant. Got a tip on some site. Turn key to on, push at least 10 times on the asc button and the pump is pumping around the coolant in short bursts while you top off the coolant.

I still wonder if the coolant bottle in front is from the same system as from the obc and inverter, since the level didn't change at all while i disconnected the hoses on the OBC