Using the Lexia3/PP2000/Diagbox hardware adapter as a universal J2534 adapter

[hjdlsnbc]

Again the thanks goes to @kolyandex . It does not look like this got really famous, so i would like to report about this here.
Mitsubishi I-Miev / Citroen c-zero / Peugeot ion owning people have often such a adapter because the fakes of it are less then 100$. Also used original ones does not cost a fortune like used MUT3 does. In general the hardware adapter is only usable with the software Lexia3/PP2000/Diagbox. Lexia3 and PP2000 are the outdated versions for Windows XP and the development for those sopped over 10 years ago. Today the people use the hardware adapter with Diagbox.
Actia PSA XS EVOLUTION or XS EVOLUTION R - each original has its own number after 921815C or 922173A for the R-VCI. The clones all have the same number: 921815B or 921815C / 40W07 / 0005451 and after XS Evolution always "Made in France".
This is how many adapters sort of look like:


Using the adapter for something else was not possible until @kolyandex developed a free J2534 driver for it. Suddenly you can debug many cars with it.

Here is the subforum for this driver in kolyandex's own forum: https://forum.kolyandex.su/viewforum.php?f=17

Kolyandex tested it with some Mitsubishi and reported: Succesfully connection to all ECUs, writed engine/ETACS coding. https://forum.kolyandex.su/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=90

The functionality of the driver is described here: https://forum.kolyandex.su/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=89
J2534 API Description:
PassThruOpen - SUPPORTED
PassThruClose - SUPPORTED
PassThruConnect - Only ISO15765 with 500000 baud
PassThruDisconnect - SUPPORTED
PassThruReadMsgs - Only one ISO15765 message, timeout don't care
PassThruWriteMsgs - Only one ISO15765 message, timeout don't care
PassThruStartPeriodicMsg - NOT SUPPORTED
PassThruStopPeriodicMsg - NOT SUPPORTED
PassThruStartMsgFilter - Only FLOW_CONTROL_FILTER for ISO15765
PassThruStopMsgFilter - SUPPORTED
PassThruSetProgrammingVoltage - NOT SUPPORTED
PassThruReadVersion - SUPPORTED
PassThruGetLastError - TODO
PassThruIoctl - Supports only READ_VBATT (const value 14.4v), CLEAR_RX_BUFFER, CLEAR_TX_BUFFER - presents only tx buffer, CLEAR_MSG_FILTERS, other - not supported

If you do not want to register to the forum of kolyandex or you can not for some reason register to the forum, i attached the driver from @kolyandex to this forum post here.

Here a picture of someone using the interface with a Ford car and the software for Ford vehicles:


In combination with the MUT3-driver (you have to pay for it) from @kolyandex you could probably use Mitsubishi MUT3 with the Peugeot/Citroen interface.
Is it recommended to flash the firmware of your imiev car with a china clone of the Diagbox hardware in combination with this driver and in combination with the mut3-driver? Probably not. @kolyandex still recommends Original Tactrix Openport 2.0 for deeper modifications at the cars.

 

[hjdlsnbc]

I cant edit the first post any more after some time passed.
Here is the sourcecode of the driver: https://github.com/kolyandex/Lexia_J2534
For a backup i added the sourcecode also to this forum post in a zip file.

 

[Rational]

Is it recommended to flash the firmware of your imiev car with a china clone of the Diagbox hardware in combination with this driver and in combination with the mut3-driver? Probably not. @kolyandex still recommends Original Tactrix Openport 2.0 for deeper modifications at the cars.

Great post. Thanks for sharing that.

So have you used the Tactrix Openport 2.0 at all? Is this still the best cable/dongle to use these days?

I'm trying to find the most reliable and most compatible cable/dongle to use with all the different software out there. MUT3,Diagbox and anything else that might be a good option. Something that will work with the French virtual machine they offer of 7.xx as well.

Since the miev is so old now I've read the latest versions of MUT3 and all other tools latest updates really aren't required, right? I just need to confirm if there's a universal cable I could get that would work with all of the above tools. That would be handy to have so I can play around with them all with a single cable.

 

[MickeyS70]

I just need to confirm if there's a universal cable I could get that would work with all of the above tools. That would be handy to have so I can play around with them all with a single cable.

Imho the Lexia cable in combination with Diagbox is a powerful, low cost solution (you can get functioning clones for less than $100) in its own right.

A no brainer, if it turns out that it can also be used with MUT3..

 

[Rational]

Imho the Lexia cable in combination with Diagbox is a powerful, low cost solution (you can get functioning clones for less than $100) in its own right.

A no brainer, if it turns out that it can also be used with MUT3..

Okay. Good. I was thinking and hoping that the Lexia 3 cable would be a good one too. But I'd only read one post (https://myimiev.com/threads/i-miev-and-lexia-3-and-diagbox.4042/post-41478) saying the person had confirmed the Lexia 3 cable worked with the Mitsubishi model of the Miev. I wanted to get more confirmations before buying one as I will never work on Peugeot/Citreon here in Japan. So it would just sit unused if it actually doesn't work. But if I understand correctly it likely will being the Mitsubixhi Miev version is the original version the others are based off of and since the driver was released by kolyandex that opens up all of these adapter cables now? Of which the Lexis 3 is just another type of J2534?

But I'll start searching for the Lexia 3 cable and see if I can find the best one.

So far I've found this one:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006966181931.html?

It has 700 orders so seems the most popular one. But I have no idea what all the additional accessory cables are used for and if I need them.

It also seems to have a round connector on the end of it but comes with the adapter from that to OBD2. I'm assuming that round connector is for European cars in that market?

If not, there's just the cable for like $50 here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005921827174.html
78 orders so far on aliexpress so seems to be a reasonable amount of sales so far. But this one is a direct to obd2 type connector But not sure if this is a 'full chip' version. I wonder if there is a full chip version by itself without all the other cables if I don't really need them.

But it seems that the 'full chip' versions are the most robust ones out now and the less expensive ones may not be.

There also seems to be ones with LEDs on them for status lights for a bit more too. Like these here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006994065768.html
This post shows the details on the 'full chip' version and why it's more stable. A bit more at $108 for the 'LED FULL CHIP" version.
They also have 600 orders so the second most popular one on aliexpress.

So I will keep studying to see if I can understand the nuances between them and the best one to choose.

Yes, a for sure no brainer if it can be used with MUT3. That would be the icing on the cake if so.

Perhaps I should order this $108 version and test it out for everyone's benefit?

Or I guess I could find an origial OEM Lexia 3 cable used on ebay perhaps? Any benefit I wonder to having an original?

As of yesterday though, I ordered this $15 openport 2.0 from aliexpress. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005605112895.html I chose the Golden A version with the better cable and 4CD set for all car makes and models.

I've got an old spare laptop I can dedicate to it so it will be handy if it tests out okay to be working fine completely offline for older models. If so and I like it I'll buy the real version as well for updates, ease of use and higher reliability and to support the company.

 

[MickeyS70]

Okay. Good. I was thinking and hoping that the Lexia 3 cable would be a good one too. But I'd only read one post saying the person had confirmed the Lexia 3 cable worked with the Mitsubishi model of the Miev. I wanted to get more confirmations before buying one as I will never work on Peugeot/Citreon here in Japan.

But I'll start searching for the Lexia 3 cable and see if I can find the best one.

So far I've found this one:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006966181931.html?

It has 700 orders so seems the most popular one. But I have no idea what all the additional accessory cables are used for and if I need them.

It does work (see link further on) and you don’t need the additional accessory cables

It also seems to have a round connector on the end of it but comes with the adapter from that to OBD2. I'm assuming that round connector is for European cars in that market?

OBD connector is universal, but my Lexia cable also has a round plug with an adapter

If not, there's just the cable for like $50 here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005921827174.html
78 orders so far on aliexpress so seems to be a reasonable amount of sales so far. But this one is a direct to obd2 type connector But not sure if this is a 'full chip' version. I wonder if there is a full chip version by itself without all the other cables if I don't really need them.

But it seems that the 'full chip' versions are the most robust ones out now and the less expensive ones may not be.

Yes, you don’t need a full chip version for a triplet but I got one anyway for ‘robustness’ reasons

There also seems to be ones with LEDs on them for status lights for a bit more too. Like these here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006994065768.html

Only one LED on mine

Yes, a for sure no brainer if it can be used with MUT3. That would be the icing on the cake if so.

You need to buy an additional driver for this to work though..

Perhaps I should order this $108 version and test it out for everyone's benefit?

Or I guess I could find an origial OEM Lexia 3 cable used on ebay perhaps? Any benefit I wonder to having an original?

I've got an old spare laptop I can dedicate to it so it will be handy if it tests out okay to be working fine completely offline for older models. If so and I like it I'll buy the real version as well for updates, ease of use and higher reliability and to support the company.

More info on the subject can be found below;
https://myimiev.com/threads/i-miev-and-lexia-3-and-diagbox.4042/page-2