OVMS for Mitsubishi i-Miev, Citroen C-Zero and Peugeot iOn

[ChrisEV]

It looks like they are on new hardware with OVMS3.1

https://www.openvehicles.com/310gettingstarted

I just found out about this some time ago and you can't get the older version anymore so it seems I have to wait until they add i-MIEV support back in

 

[ChrisEV]

I got my V3 hardware and got it working a few days ago. It's pretty slick.

I need to find a good place to mount the hardware and antenna.

They only added support a few months ago so there's still some bugs. It doesn't currently detect the car is charging, although I can see the SOC going up over time.

There's a lot more they could grab I imagine, I was looking through the code and what little I could find on the cars CANBus IDs. I wonder if the car sends the tire pressures....

Items like SoH of the battery could work too.

 

[jjlink]

I have the version 2 hardware. Let us know when they get more features on the v3 hardware working the the I-MiEV.

 

[ChrisEV]

I have the version 2 hardware. Let us know when they get more features on the v3 hardware working the the I-MiEV.

I never used V2 but V3 seems easier to use given that it can update itself automatically.

I couldn't find more info on the car's CAN bus, beyond what's currently being monitored. Canion tracks much more detail but the basic categories on the battery, charging and temperatures seem to be covered.

Not even sure if it's possible or safe to write data to do things like trigger preheating etc.

edit: and the new update fixed the charging detection so I can finally monitor the car charging while out of remote range(which is almost always the case)

 

[ChrisEV]

Testing out individual cell voltages and temperatures:

Only available on local WiFi but can technically be available in the app. I can check them via SMS although it's not very readable.

Can also set up alerts for cell temperatures/voltage although this slammed my phone with alerts by default as there is a big gap in cell temperatures during charging.

 

[KommyKT]

Canion tracks much more detail

Which more details you missed from OVMS?
SOH set now in Trio/Settings on web interface, to calibrate ideal range.

I see you use my code. The first is charge detection. (in my city does not have a working DC charger), i think now works great. Now i want to add some feature to code.
Some data that only show metrics:
- heater temperature
- energy used/received
- charging energy used
- trip data (xmi trip), show kWh/100km, km/kWh, trip length, heating energy used

all energy calculation is first try

 

[ChrisEV]

Canion tracks much more detail

Which more details you missed from OVMS?
SOH set now in Trio/Settings on web interface, to calibrate ideal range.

I see you use my code. The first is charge detection. (in my city does not have a working DC charger), i think now works great. Now i want to add some feature to code.
Some data that only show metrics:
- heater temperature
- energy used/received
- charging energy used
- trip data (xmi trip), show kWh/100km, km/kWh, trip length, heating energy used

all energy calculation is first try

Is there an update on your NAS? I can't seem to download it. I can test charge detection.

I've seen the SoH setting and the energy used by the heater which is very useful. I haven't seen any of the other metrics show any data. A trip odometer with energy calculations would be very useful as I get a daily email with a spreadsheet of all the metrics.

I'm looking at the coffee for the iOS and Android apps to see how to add this to the interface.

 

[KommyKT]

Yes, latest version on the NAS.
Now i see some 12V Battery Critical message while driving.

Canion tracks much more detail

Which more details you missed from OVMS?
SOH set now in Trio/Settings on web interface, to calibrate ideal range.

I see you use my code. The first is charge detection. (in my city does not have a working DC charger), i think now works great. Now i want to add some feature to code.
Some data that only show metrics:
- heater temperature
- energy used/received
- charging energy used
- trip data (xmi trip), show kWh/100km, km/kWh, trip length, heating energy used

all energy calculation is first try

Is there an update on your NAS? I can't seem to download it. I can test charge detection.

I've seen the SoH setting and the energy used by the heater which is very useful. I haven't seen any of the other metrics show any data. A trip odometer with energy calculations would be very useful as I get a daily email with a spreadsheet of all the metrics.

I'm looking at the coffee for the iOS and Android apps to see how to add this to the interface.

 

[ChrisEV]

I downloaded the new firmware. I'll give it a try.

 

[jjlink]

I just ordered the v3.1 OVMS hardware, so in the near future I can test as well.

 

[jjlink]

I just got my v3.1 OVMS hardware, up and running today.

In case anyone is interested a OVMS v2 hardware box is for sale on eBay for $30.00 (good deal).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OVMS-Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System/183606077227

I may also try sell my v2 box as well if anyone is interested.

 

[ChrisEV]

I just got my v3.1 OVMS hardware, up and running today.

How's it working for you?

Right now it's pretty good for me. I'm getting some nice trip and battery statistics out of it.

I need a better place to mount the hardware and antenna

 

[jjlink]

I just got my v3.1 OVMS hardware, up and running today.

How's it working for you?

Right now it's pretty good for me. I'm getting some nice trip and battery statistics out of it.

I need a better place to mount the hardware and antenna

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I mounted it down under where the 12v outlet is. Basically all I have done is got the Android app connected to my OVMS v3 car module working. It appears the estimated range is wrong, and the ideal range shows zero all the time.

Other than the Android app, I have not tried much. It looks like the commands are different. I did checkout the dashboard and the web interface for setup. Are there other things I should try out?

 

[ChrisEV]

KommyKT has a custom build of OVMS that supports more features than the "official" version.

I've been posting some results here:

https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/issues/174

The link to download it is in there.

It seems to work pretty well and fixes any problems I've found so far. It's even got a visual of all cells in the web interface.

I've been trying to do a CANbus capture but it just crashes my module everytime, as I was hoping to report on when the car is preheating etc.

 

[jjlink]

KommyKT has a custom build of OVMS that supports more features than the "official" version.

I've been posting some results here:

https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/issues/174

The link to download it is in there.

It seems to work pretty well and fixes any problems I've found so far. It's even got a visual of all cells in the web interface.

I've been trying to do a CANbus capture but it just crashes my module everytime, as I was hoping to report on when the car is preheating etc.

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I got the firmware loaded and ran it around the block.

The BMS monitor is pretty cool. I will check it again after charging.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!APeLRIUxoBzYn4dm

Thanks

 

[ChrisEV]

V3.2 is out and it has the new iMIEV code.

It seems to work well. I have more problems with non iMIEV specific stuff like wifi disconnect and some crashes.

It seems to support everything that's ever been discovered on the CANbus for the car from what I can tell. I don't know if the car sends the psi of each tire on the bus for example.

I wanted it to monitor charging remotely and it works great for that. Having an automatic trip calculation is nice as well.

Now we just need to snoop more data on the bus.

Amazing job KommyKT

 

[Rational]

Hi guys,
Anything new in the world of OVMS for the miev?

I'm considering getting one of the new V3 OVMS modules for my latest acquisition of a 2011 JDM miev.

I have an OVMS in my 2014 leaf that I installed 4-5 months ago and it is nice to monitor charging remotely.

Checking the OVMS miev support page here: https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/components/vehicle_mitsubishi/docs/index.html

Seems to show a few things still unsupported. Is this because it's not possible or because no one has continued development of these remaining features?




I haven't even looked to see if I have TPMS on my JDM i-miev or not yet. How to confirm?
I guess it could be that they don't on my base model. Or maybe in 2011 they didn't offer it at all?

Would be interesting to have the pre-heat/cool but it doesn't get that hot or cold here to matter.
But I don't mind working to get this enabled if someone wanted me to help test it.

Lock/unlock would be interesting, but again not essential.

Valet mode? Like what's that? Like a Tesla? Will never be a thing for an i-miev!

The one I'd like would be the charge control. Now that would be cool to be able to turn on remotely and even schedule the start time. If we could get that working that'd be stellar!

 

[martinwinlow]

I thought OVMS had gone years ago! I had it in 2014 when I bought my first clone (iOn).

Tesla's 'Valet Mode' has nothing to do with self-driving. It just permits the owner to set a limit on top speed (mainly)...

Pretty much all of what you mention would be possible in theory - it would just require the correct CAN messages to be sent by the OVMS controller, tho I don't know enough about the controller to say if it has sufficient capability in that way - it may be (and probs is) 'read-only', for example...

 

[PDiddy]

Hi guys,
Anything new in the world of OVMS for the miev?

I'm considering getting one of the new V3 OVMS modules for my latest acquisition of a 2011 JDM miev.

I have an OVMS in my 2014 leaf that I installed 4-5 months ago and it is nice to monitor charging remotely.

Checking the OVMS miev support page here: https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/components/vehicle_mitsubishi/docs/index.html

Seems to show a few things still unsupported. Is this because it's not possible or because no one has continued development of these remaining features?

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I haven't even looked to see if I have TPMS on my JDM i-miev or not yet. How to confirm?
I guess it could be that they don't on my base model. Or maybe in 2011 they didn't offer it at all?

Would be interesting to have the pre-heat/cool but it doesn't get that hot or cold here to matter.
But I don't mind working to get this enabled if someone wanted me to help test it.

Lock/unlock would be interesting, but again not essential.

Valet mode? Like what's that? Like a Tesla? Will never be a thing for an i-miev!

The one I'd like would be the charge control. Now that would be cool to be able to turn on remotely and even schedule the start time. If we could get that working that'd be stellar!

it seems like there might be some development happening for unsupported features in OVMS, but the official website doesn't provide all the details

 

[hjdlsnbc]

@Rational
No, i am not aware of any 2011 imiev with TPMS build in. You can get regular manual for a later build imiev/c-zero/ion. There you can see how you can check the TPMS with the one single button that can be used to view/reset the trip counter, configure the intensity of the backlight and so on.
Would be great if you would get the OVMS. Maybe at some time you would repair a more modern imiev with climate-remote and TPMS build in. Then you could add those last missing options.
But in the existing OVMS code there are still many options that can be added by analysing the MUT-3/Diagbox commands to a 2011 imiev and adding buttons for those options to OVMS.

Here you can follow the development of the imiev in OVMS: https://github.com/openvehicles/Ope...vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle_mitsubishi

Here a single example from 06.2023 of adding the ability to read the voltage of newer imiev versions that do not send all their voltages by themself over the CAN bus: https://github.com/openvehicles/Ope...mmit/50aafa0a42620ff8f218d8e30d2353388412f373