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Under OS X, the key combination Option-0 (Option-zero) produces the º character.PV1 said:By the way, how did you get the degree symbol (°)?
Under OS X, the key combination Option-0 (Option-zero) produces the º character.PV1 said:By the way, how did you get the degree symbol (°)?
BlueLightning said:Temperature dependent ageing mechanisms in Lithium-ion batteries – A Post-Mortem study. Journal of Power Sources, Volume 262, 15 September 2014, Pages 129–135
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378775314004352
Abstract
The effects of temperatures in the range of −20 °C to 70 °C on the ageing behaviour of cycled Lithium-ion batteries are investigated quantitatively by electrochemical methods and Post-Mortem analysis. Commercial 18650-type high-power cells with a LixNi1/3Mn1/3Co1/3O2/LiyMn2O4 blend cathode and graphite/carbon anode were used as test system. The cells were cycled at a rate of 1 C until the discharge capacity falls below 80% of the initial capacity. Interestingly, an Arrhenius plot indicates two different ageing mechanisms for the ranges of −20 °C to 25 °C and 25 °C to 70 °C. Below 25 °C, the ageing rates increase with decreasing temperature, while above 25 °C ageing is accelerated with increasing temperature. The aged 18650 cells are inspected via scanning electron microscopy (SEM), energy dispersive X-ray analysis (EDX), inductively coupled plasma (ICP), measurements of electrode thickness and X-ray diffraction (XRD) after disassembly to learn more about the chemical reasons of the degradation. The effect of different temperatures on the electrode polarizations are evaluated by assembling electrodes in pouch cells with reference electrode as a model system. We find that the dominating ageing mechanism for T < 25 °C is Lithium plating, while for T > 25 °C the cathodes show degeneration and the anodes will be increasingly covered by Solid Electrolyte Interface SEI layers.
State of Health decrease approximately with the same rate for T = 70 °C and for T = 0 °C
PV1 said:My winter method is to charge overnight on L1, then switch to L2 in the morning if I want to preheat. The longer charge time of L1 would seem to keep the pack warmer (balancing and just the cells being active) through the night.
I got some measurements this morning. It was 40° outside this morning, so I had to preheat. I charged up last night on level 2 from 12 bars to full. I started charging at 11:30 PM.PV1 said:This makes me wonder if re-routing the coolant loop to zig-zag the bottom of the pack would be beneficial? That way, waste heat from the electronics and motor can help keep the battery warm. Last winter, I've seen the charger alone bring the loop up to ~45° when it's 20° outside.
I just returned from a quick jaunt a few miles up the road. It's roughly 60° outside, pack temp is 64°, motor is 91°, and inverter is 79°. I didn't go on the highway, just main roads at 45 mph.
Event PEM Temp Motor Temp Battery Temp (°F)
End of charge 52 54 61
Start of preheat 48 50 57
10 min. later 52 54 59
20 min. later 55 57 59
After 20 min. drive 55 81 59
mixmike6 said:During the cold months I was planning on charging through the night on 120v/8a to keep the pack active and warm.
I let the car rest about an hour before charging it when I go home and the same when I leave in the morning.
In the winter should I let the car rest after charging it in the morning or would it be better to unplug it while still charging and leave?
Yes . . . . and . . . . no. Charging the pack does warm it a bit, but once charging is complete, the 'warming' is done with and it cools off pretty quickly. This is why trickle charging it at 8 amps is recommended - If you time it correctly, it will still be charging (and warming) when it's time for you to leave in the morning . . . . hopefully with a 90% chargebarrylevine said:Is it definite that leaving the car charging at 120V keeps the battery pack warm, even after charging is complete?
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