wmcbrine
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Eh, the stranger thing to me is why they break so often here. What's up with that?JoeS said:
Kiwi in Slovakia
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phb10186
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wmcbrine said:
Im trying to work that out too. You are talking about a lot of AMPs, and a lot of safety legislation - so I would guess that overly sensitive fault sensors to protect users is a main reason. OR, the RFID card system that it uses has network issues - more likely this I reckon... bad internet!
The 'Ecotricity Highway' that's the fast DC ChAdeMO network on the UK Highways is temperamental too. Often outages that remain broke for a good few days. They normally have 2 on either side of major service statios, normally about 40-50 miles apart depending on geography and population. They will need 5 times that capacity soon if they want to ensure journey times aren't going to spiral out of control.
But it a free to use network currently, so any scheme that give CHAdeMO for free isn't one i'll complain about - though i would prefer to pay for reliability, than take the risk all the time.
https://www.ecotricity.co.uk/for-the-road/our-electric-highway
As far as IMIEV range goes, im OK on the network going north from London, but im about 60 miles from the first one going south, and I always go south... so its a Hybrid to use for longer journeys still.
ed5000
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What I think we could use here is a little history lesson of why and how these "EVSE's came into existence. A few people have expressed their frustration with these things (including Kiwi in his videos) but no one ever seem to talk about what might be really going on.wmcbrine said:
What I have observed over the years is that a special interest, that seems to have their hand in everything automotive, have tasked the Society of Automotive Engineers with designing these things. But to who's specifications? Could it be that someone wanted it to function in a less than optimal way?
I recall that back in the 1990's the first EVSE's came with a large paddle, small paddle (inductive), plus there were at least 2 conductive. It seemed every ev manufacturer had a different charge connector. I can only imagine driving into a Costco and praying that your flavor of connector was available. Other issues I have are with these charging networks. What are their true intentions? I think it would be pretty niave to start up a charging network without expecting some kind of outside interference.
I myself try to charge mostly at home or some local EVSE's that have been reliable for me and I'm very thankful when a unfamiliar EVSE does work.
PV1
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The thing is, CHAdeMO wasn't designed by the SAE, the Combo plug and J1772 were. Level 2 EVSE have been pretty reliable overall. There have been some issues with them not working (I was nearly stranded by one not working), but largely can be counted on.
I have no data on SAE Combo quick chargers.
CHAdeMO quick chargers, at least from Eaton, have been fairly reliable.
Signet units in my area were initially nearly useless, but continuous improvements have made them semi-reliable. A new user interface made a huge jump in usability, but they don't quite have their hardware shaken out just yet.
Blink always seem to be broken. Brand new units installed along the PA Turnpike worked for a couple of people and then seemed to quit.
I would like to hear more data on ChargePoint units, as they look like quality units.
The newest kid on the block in my area is NRG EVGo, installed at numerous Dunkin' Donuts around Pittsburgh and neighboring towns. With the cost of membership, I hope these are reliable units.
Compared to the reliability of a gas pump or even Tesla's Superchargers, quick chargers need a lot of work. I would like to know why we seem to have so many issues with them. It shouldn't be like this.
I have no data on SAE Combo quick chargers.
CHAdeMO quick chargers, at least from Eaton, have been fairly reliable.
Signet units in my area were initially nearly useless, but continuous improvements have made them semi-reliable. A new user interface made a huge jump in usability, but they don't quite have their hardware shaken out just yet.
Blink always seem to be broken. Brand new units installed along the PA Turnpike worked for a couple of people and then seemed to quit.
I would like to hear more data on ChargePoint units, as they look like quality units.
The newest kid on the block in my area is NRG EVGo, installed at numerous Dunkin' Donuts around Pittsburgh and neighboring towns. With the cost of membership, I hope these are reliable units.
Compared to the reliability of a gas pump or even Tesla's Superchargers, quick chargers need a lot of work. I would like to know why we seem to have so many issues with them. It shouldn't be like this.
The following is a response from Symsite as to the number of electric cars in Slovakia:
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. . . and thanks for your inquiry. The car registration numbers are collected by the Slovak police. They do not disclose the statistics in full, but publish press releases.
The 49 electric cars was a number for 2014. At the end of 2015, the number rose to 53. Of these, 25 were made by Nissan, 22 by VW, and Peugeot and Kia sold one electric car here each.
Sources of the statistics: http://energia.dennikn.sk/dolezite/elektrina-a-elektromobilita/jazdit-na-elektrinu-je-u-nas-stale-vzacnost/15730/
Here is the list of electric cars available in Slovakia: http://www.etrend.sk/auto/uvazujete-o-elektromobile-tieto-obmedzene-moznosti-mate-na-slovensku.html
Both sources are only in Slovak, though.
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Because they are only in Slovak, one has to guess at the numbers somewhat.
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. . . and thanks for your inquiry. The car registration numbers are collected by the Slovak police. They do not disclose the statistics in full, but publish press releases.
The 49 electric cars was a number for 2014. At the end of 2015, the number rose to 53. Of these, 25 were made by Nissan, 22 by VW, and Peugeot and Kia sold one electric car here each.
Sources of the statistics: http://energia.dennikn.sk/dolezite/elektrina-a-elektromobilita/jazdit-na-elektrinu-je-u-nas-stale-vzacnost/15730/
Here is the list of electric cars available in Slovakia: http://www.etrend.sk/auto/uvazujete-o-elektromobile-tieto-obmedzene-moznosti-mate-na-slovensku.html
Both sources are only in Slovak, though.
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Because they are only in Slovak, one has to guess at the numbers somewhat.
ed5000
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True the J1772 EVSE seem more reliable but instead of multiple connectors we have multiple memberships. At least we can pack our wallets full of cards and still charge. And yes, Blink is a problem out here too. A local mall near me had Charge Point EVSE's and changed them all to Blink. The one I liked to use has never worked since and that has been over a year ago.
As for CHAdeMO, I know that's a Japanese design that I would expect to work well but, there is still is a charging network to go through and some people get annoyed with faults and error codes they're getting. It may be that these systems are still so new and I do have to admit I haven't tried a quick charger myself since my car didn't come with that feature.
As for CHAdeMO, I know that's a Japanese design that I would expect to work well but, there is still is a charging network to go through and some people get annoyed with faults and error codes they're getting. It may be that these systems are still so new and I do have to admit I haven't tried a quick charger myself since my car didn't come with that feature.
PV1
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Nice.
I want that red paint. Really sharp!
I want that red paint. Really sharp!
kaiat
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Phximiev said:
Yes and no...
The French clones are indeed missing those two extra gears from the factory. Some owners have been able to enable them by modifying the trim around the gear lever, but appearantly not all of the French clones have the possibility to enable them. It works on early cars, but not on the later ones as I understand it.
phb10186
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Phximiev said:
I wish a London commute was like that... try filtering through traffic in the rain on a scooter while Range Rover drivers are aiming their wheel arches at you.
