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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:28 am

Phximiev wrote:Ceres and the steel fuel cell:

https://youtu.be/PCs9OOHP-0o


Ceres website: http://www.cerespower.com
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:12 pm

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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:53 am

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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:07 am

Riversimple progress. looking for testers for the RASA beta test: http://www.riversimple.com/riversimple- ... g-testers/
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:19 am

Hydrogen gas network: https://youtu.be/DBba8WeQe-g
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:43 am

Riversimple, some apparent and second crowd funding effort: http://riversimple.seedrs.com
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:05 pm

Look how tiny this car is compared to the Prius-sized Mirai - I simply can't see how that would ever gain the requisite approval in the collision safety department to go mainstream, not least because I think you need to supply 2 vehicles for crash testing (definitely 1). I think there is a very low production waiver of a few cars allowed before you need to get all that stuff - hence will this ever be more than a proof of concept thing?

https://www.riversimple.com/2017-evergr ... /img_1237/

That vehicle, the only one ever pictured I believe has the year designation '65' in the license plate - meaning it was registered for use between September 2015 and March 2016 (likely built and finished long before). It is amazing how far they have got on only a few £m funding, though I remain skeptical as to whether this is an impassioned voyage of discovery, or a viable business and transport solution. We have, as a United Kingdom a rich history of small scale vehicle manufacturer failures/ insolvencies - and that has been due mainly with an almost inherent national failure to successfully commercialise, rather than to successfully innovate and produce well.

Concerning the Mirai, there appear to be 41 registered in the UK, I live near an open hydrogen filling station (I think the first one opened in the UK - and predictably next door to a main Toyota/ Lexus dealership), and I am yet to see one on the road, or any vehicle ever fill up with Hydrogen. I assume therefore, that they are all being tested by various commercial organisations. Once they turn 3 years old, sometime towards the end of the year and through 2019, I will be carefully looking for any of those to turn up used, and am highly interested in what the used price may be. I would also assume that the number of miles traveled will be very low indeed, but I will keep my eyes peeled. I have really wanted to see one on the roads, and I should have done by now based on where I live and where I commute.
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:11 am

phb10186 wrote:Look how tiny this car is compared to the Prius-sized Mirai - I simply can't see how that would ever gain the requisite approval in the collision safety department to go mainstream, not least because I think you need to supply 2 vehicles for crash testing (definitely 1). I think there is a very low production waiver of a few cars allowed before you need to get all that stuff - hence will this ever be more than a proof of concept thing?

Maybe they will be going for National Small Series Type Approval (NSSTA) or even Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) if they're only going to build a small amount?
https://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicletype/type-approval-for-ca.asp
Looking at the car, I wonder how much more battery capacity you could get in there if you ditched all the hydrogen gubbins.
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:31 pm

^ could do. Not sure how making that into a BEV could make commercial sense...
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