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    Battery Failure Data

    I do. My friend's coworker just got a new C-Zero with 80 cells. The most important differences are smaller pack (14,5 kWh) and prolonged warranty 8 years/100.000 km like you have. He lives only 70 km away, so I can drive there and check whatever you need to be checked and post here. So let me...
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    Battery optimization

    My friends C-Zero, year 2011, 14.000 km, averaged 148Wh per 1% SOC, so his value for 5% is 740Wh. I don't know about 50% SOC voltage, but I saw yesterday my car stopped at 8% SOC and many cells close to 2,8V. Really concerned... Any thoughts about that?
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    Battery optimization

    I'l let you know but last time i measured this value, it was 62 Wh in average for 0,5 SoC so 50-55 620 Wh should go into the battery.
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    Citroen C Zero v Renault Zoe.

    I see. I just wanted to remind you that renting a battery is very expensive IMO. Very attractive option can be buying used C-Zero or Ion for not more than 10k€.
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    Citroen C Zero v Renault Zoe.

    John, what about Zoe's battery rental costs? I believe in UK also you can't buy but only lease the battery. If so, I would make a calculation about profitability. The price of monthly battery rental and electricity cost is at least 8€/100 km. That makes driving Zoe far more expensive as any...
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    Battery optimization

    Technical "expert" at Citroen told me I should visit my dealer to do a battery optimization. He explained that every couple of years every c-zero should be connected to a tester, which needs about four hours to finish the process. He claimed that range and battery health should improve...
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    Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

    I do it quite often. I noticed I can rely on the SOC Canion reading. The car stops at 0-2% SOC and every % equals at least 1 km of easy driving. It happened a few times I came to a planed charging station with less than 5% SOC w/o any range anxiety.
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    Great idea for pre heat pre cool without imiev remote

    I just don't care about missing remote in Citroen C-Zero. On cold days coming in a few weeks a small 240V 2 kW fan heater does the job quicker and better than integrated car's heater. I just need a power strip to charge and heat the car simultaneously home or at charging station.
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    How long will it be before electric cars will be the norm

    I believe the answer is simple. EVs will outsell ICEs when prices will be equal and range will reach let's say 200 miles. Even today there is no real technical reason for so high prices of nowadays EVs. All depends on the political and corporative will and decisions.
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    Charging blocked due to high cell temp?

    Usually I hear fan starting right after ch. cable has been plugged in. Red charging light with SOC bars on dashboard come on right on the start of charging. I checked outlet - no problem detected. Yesterday it happened again. I came home with 37-41°C cells temp. range. Charging didn't start...
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    Charging blocked due to high cell temp?

    Yesterday was very hot here in Slovenia. I left home at 37°C drove carefully 140 km and stopped at my father's house with 10% SOC for charging. I plugged in and... nothing happened. Cells temps were between 38 and 42°C. I called Citroen 24/7 assistance... usual story - they have no clue at all...
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    High Temp on #64 sensor -

    Not much I suppose. Cells covered by temp sensor 64 would cool down much slower if they were affected by hot tube when you stop the car. I noticed that sensor 64 temperature is matching other values pretty soon after I put the car in the garage which makes me think the outstanding sensor 64...
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    1 bar blinking, no turtle, safe to drive for 10 miles ?

    If open, I'd like to join the club! :)
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    Thinking to buy electric car . any advices please ?

    It's OK, every country has to start building charging infrastructure at some point in time. I see your electricity prices are even lower than ours so your acquaintances will very soon envy your mobility costs and other EV advantages. Even more if you'd buy "almost new" I-miev for less than 8k€.
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    Thinking to buy electric car . any advices please ?

    There were rumors (slovene Ions only!) that stock cars were left fully charged on hot summer weather so the range was questionable. But I have no evidence of it. All three brands are build in the same factory with same materials. Only difference is gear shift and only one trim level (C-Zero...
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    Thinking to buy electric car . any advices please ?

    It is the same battery. PSA (Citroen & Peugeot) don't have their own packs. They cooperated with Mitsubishi many years before I-miev. Mitsubishi produces models for other brands also. They are only rebadging them for Citroen and Peugeot. You sure know Mitsubishi Outlander and Citroen C-Crosser...
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    Thinking to buy electric car . any advices please ?

    It's the same car. The only difference is I-miev has 2 additional drive modes (Eco and B), where B is same as C-Zeros and Ions regular drive mode. So the most important question for the buyer is not the brand but the battery condition.
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    Thinking to buy electric car . any advices please ?

    All C-Zeros were leased and Citroen sells them now. There is still a possibility to negotiate the price.
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    Thinking to buy electric car . any advices please ?

    Right now prices in EU are between 7.500 and 11.000€ for 2011/12 with less then 20.000 km on. I believe average price will fall significantly in half a year. All potential EU buyers should be alert and follow the market supply to catch the right moment. How to check the car and battery...
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    Thinking to buy electric car . any advices please ?

    Hi, Owexonline! Where do you live exactly? I plan to buy 2 or 3 used I-mievs or EU clones for 6-7k€/car. If you do not hurry, wait until august, when a lot of used Ions will be available at very reasonable prices. Three years ago in august a lot of Ions were sold at a price of € 11,000 which...
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