jennrod12
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Consumer Reports "Review"

Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:56 am

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tonymil
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Re: Consumer Reports "Review"

Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:17 am

I think we can guess where the full review will be going after reading their " fairly crude and uncomfortable" comment. Plus they've only been getting 56 miles per charge which means they're not driving/thinking of the car as intended. This car is about savings - saving the environment, saving money. Sure the Leaf feels more like a traditional sedan, but with more cost to the environment and more financial cost. Car reviewers who don't think about that will never like the MiEV. Oh well.

magicnote
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Re: Consumer Reports "Review"

Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:26 am

That's not much of a surprise considering what's happened to Consumer Reports in recent years. They have gone from being a well-respected product review organization to a sensationalist link-baiting website.

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Re: Consumer Reports "Review"

Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:34 am

Based on that article... if the i-MiEV truly only uses 16 kWh for a full charge....and if the national average for electricity is 11 cents per kWh...that equates to a full charge costing $1.76.

For me...I have been driving 60.2 miles roundtrip from home to work for the past 16 years. That 60.2 miles had been costing me 2 1/2 gallons of gas a day...that's roughly 24.08 miles/gallon. Those 2 1/2 gallons at today's local price of $3.59 a gallon was costing me $8.97 to get to work and back. 5 days a week, Monday - Friday....gas was costing me $44.85 a week!

If a full charge costs $1.76 x 5 days, that's equal to $8.80 a week in electricity.

Therefore, the difference from gas to electricity for me is roughly $36.05 a week in savings. Over a month's time, that's a savings of about $144.20 in gas. This is more than worth the little bit extra I'm paying in a brand new car payment over what my gas powered vehicle was costing me.

Certainly worth the drive to me! Not to mention the pricetag on the savings to the environment it's creating in the process.

Next... I want to see the portable solar panels that flip out of the sides of my car doors, hoods & roof, to charge it anywhere, anytime and extending my drive range even further!
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Don
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Re: Consumer Reports "Review"

Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:42 am

I haven't bought (or read) an issue of Consumer Reports in more than 15 years - What they say about any product doesn't interest me in the slightest. They proved to me long ago that their reports are not unbiased, so I'll make up my own mind without regard to what they think or publish

Don
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Re: Consumer Reports "Review"

Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:34 pm

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Re: Consumer Reports "Review"

Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:37 am

I read this in the CR magazine a while ago and dismissed it. It's not as nice a car as the Leaf, and I've never claimed otherwise. But the price difference is pretty big, and the i is way more than good enough for its commuter and errand running missions. Speaking of missions, it sounds like the CR staff are trying to live with the car in the wrong place and use it the wrong way. If "that roughly 60-mile range proved quite a deterrent for every staff member setting off on a journey outside the greater East Haddam metropolitan area," then I'd say don't take the car outside the metropolitan area!! It isn't stated here explicitly, but I'd be willing to bet that some staff are taking the car home w/o having a Level 2 charger, a problem I've seen with a number of "range anxiety"-infused reviews.

Finally, calling the i "crude and uncomfortable" strikes me as terribly unfair - compared to what, I must ask. I certainly liked it better than the Scion iQ or the Prius C, both of which I've recently driven.
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fjpod
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Re: Consumer Reports "Review"

Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:45 am

The car is not crude and uncomfortable. It is the most efficient car for what it is designed to do.

It has more front head and leg room than many larger cars I have driven. Have you ever tried to get in and out of a Corolla?

JrCRXHF
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Re: Consumer Reports "Review"

Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:00 pm

SirCaptainAhab wrote:Based on that article... if the i-MiEV truly only uses 16 kWh for a full charge....and if the national average for electricity is 11 cents per kWh...that equates to a full charge costing $1.76.

For me...I have been driving 60.2 miles roundtrip from home to work for the past 16 years. That 60.2 miles had been costing me 2 1/2 gallons of gas a day...that's roughly 24.08 miles/gallon. Those 2 1/2 gallons at today's local price of $3.59 a gallon was costing me $8.97 to get to work and back. 5 days a week, Monday - Friday....gas was costing me $44.85 a week!

If a full charge costs $1.76 x 5 days, that's equal to $8.80 a week in electricity.

Therefore, the difference from gas to electricity for me is roughly $36.05 a week in savings. Over a month's time, that's a savings of about $144.20 in gas. This is more than worth the little bit extra I'm paying in a brand new car payment over what my gas powered vehicle was costing me.

Certainly worth the drive to me! Not to mention the pricetag on the savings to the environment it's creating in the process.

Next... I want to see the portable solar panels that flip out of the sides of my car doors, hoods & roof, to charge it anywhere, anytime and extending my drive range even further!



for me it was 130.00 in diesel every week vs .06kW and i use about 96kW per week it comes out to be 5.76 dollars. AKA the car makes its payment in diesel cost.

TaosEV
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Re: Consumer Reports "Review"

Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:34 pm

There are now two comments on the CR review, one by yours truly. Just follow the link in the OP. I agree with the above posts that the CR reviewers have the wrong set of expectations for the i.
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