JoeS
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Re: Canion

Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:26 pm

Installed v.126. Connectivity works just fine. In the past my perception is that connecting works more reliably if one waits a bit (maybe 1/2-minute) after first turning on the tablet before activating the CaniOn app.

A basic dumb question about battery temperature history: is CaniOn reading historical data stored by the car or only what CaniOn had stored after turning on?

Once again, Martin and Xavier - thank you so much for continuously improving this highly-desirable instrument for our i-MiEVs.
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Re: Canion

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:50 am

JoeS wrote:Once again, Martin and Xavier - thank you so much for continuously improving this highly-desirable instrument for our i-MiEVs.


I am also very thankful for Martin's and Xavier's effort. Canion has helped me a great deal to better understand the car and its batteries.

I installed the 126 and it works fine. I have been forced to reset the OBD adapter a couple times.

One problem I see with 126 as compared to one of the previous versions. I have used Canion to benchmark the on-the-wall kW meter. This worked nice before and I cound read the WhReg value whenever I got to the car. Now Canion works when charging, but when charging completes the ODB adapter sleeps, Canion looses contact with it, tried to reconnect and looses the WhReg value..

Is it any way to retreive the WhReg value for 126?
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Re: Canion

Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:57 am

A big thank you from me as well for the CaniOn developers. It's a must have for any i-MiEV/iOn/C-Zero driver. Thank you.
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Re: Canion

Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:02 pm

Without causing anyone a fit of coniptions, is this app available on an iPad?
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Re: Canion

Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:26 am

Phximiev wrote:Without causing anyone a fit of coniptions, is this app available on an iPad?
No </conniption>

It is well worth buying an inexpensive Android tablet and OBDLink MX adapter if you're at all interested in understanding the battery and energy use of the i-MiEV.
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Re: Canion

Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:45 am

Cost of an Android tablet shouldn't be much more than 1/100th of the vehicle price anyway. :) I'm actually using a Samsung Galaxy Trend Plus which my eldest daughter broke. The screen is cracked, but still works fine for CaniOn and shouldn't attract thieves even if left in the car. The kids are an endless supply of Android phones with cracked screens.
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Re: Canion

Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:42 am

Version 127 running. 126 was crashing in the battery temperature history. Not anymore with 127. Everything looks fine in my 4 years old i-MiEV. 78.000 km and all seems working fine. Not the best place to use an electric car, in summer gets hot in Portugal. Canion gives me a lot of help, because is the only way to know something about the temperature in the battery, and I try to avoid have it above 30º C since September 2013. Not easy and I simply don't use it in the hottest days.

One bar of 5% between 50 and 55% is about 540 Wh in my car nowadays (as seen by Canion). I saw in an Australian forum someone that measured something like 620 kWh in a similar interval, but with a car used for something like a year. So I have less 13% of battery capacity then him.

I would thank you all who use canion to see the value that a 5% bar is in energy, just to compare. But the value should be taken near 50% SoC, because the value goes up as we get closer to 100% SoC. Between 50 to 55% could be 540 Wh, but between 80 to 85% could be 555 Wh.
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Re: Canion

Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:20 pm

Hello
Just a small explanation about canion and big history:

Martin has a huge history (400MB) and another user in switzerland 311MB.
On my side, I tried many android devices and canion worked fine on all of them.

They use nexus7, from the beginning, for this use only.

With rel126, there was a freezing when trying to see „Batt Temp History“.

In a previous life, I was an expert with SQL, my diag: the culprit was a missing index in the db to get efficiently the results...

Martin found another working solution with rel127.

Xavier

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Re: Canion

Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:04 pm

Is there a setting I'm missing to display miles not km?

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Re: Canion

Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:24 am

No setting. The conversion of units hasn't been added to CaniOn yet. The RR value on the left side of the screen is a number capture from the car, so range remaining will show in miles if your car is set to MPH (as all US cars are), but speed, trip odometer, and the odometer will show km.
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