tonymil wrote:I wonder how that would be classified in NY. We have very strict rules about adding any type of motor to a bicycle (tricycle?). It automatically becomes a scooter and needs registration, and if it can reach a certain speed it becomes a motorcycle. I think it's time NY updated its rules. EDIT Actually, scooters are not allowed on public roads. NY is stupid.
"Motorized Scooter" is, I think, defined in NY as a motor-powered version of a kid's kick-scooter- the device that looks like a skateboard with a handlebar. These are just plain illegal in NY. So are electric-assisted bicycles.
It's important to note that in NY, if it has a motor of any sort and has 2 or 3 wheels, it's a "motorcycle." If there's any hope of seeing this in NY, it has to be equipped legally as a motorcycle (lights, horn, etc), which shouldn't be too hard. However, the manufacturer would have to provide a motorcycle VIN, or the owner would have to get creative in calling it a "homemade motorcycle" which is a possibility in NY.
Organic Transit says it's legal in all 50 states as a bicycle, which is not the case, although their argument is that it's the state's problem...http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/842248593/roll-out-the-elf-to-your-city#IsItRealLegaInAllStatMyStatSaysOthe
What I would call a "motor scooter" like the old Honda Helix as well as classic mopeds and "nopeds"- low speed motorbikes without pedals are classified as Limited Use Motorcycles.
Class A Limited Use Motorcycles are limited to 40mph- motor scooters- these require a motorcycle license to operate
Class B Limited Use Motorcycles are limited to 30mph- more modern "nopeds" and small size scooters. These can be driven without a motorcycle license (automobile license is required)
Class C LUM's are limited to 20mph, are the old Puch style mo-peds that are below 20mph. These can be ridden without a helmet, and no motorcycle license is necessary (auto license is required).
Looks like if the motorcycle requirements could be met, the Elf would be a Class C LUM. Still would have to have a plate (less than 10 bucks a year), although insurance is not necessary.
Looking for a brave volunteer to approach NY DMV!! Not me!