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Re: Two-Year Ownership Reflections

Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:21 pm

Can not understand why one should insulate a car, if it is so silent, as others say?

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Re: Two-Year Ownership Reflections

Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:37 pm

They're talking about thermal insulation to help the interior maintain temperature.
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Re: Two-Year Ownership Reflections

Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:54 pm

If you read carefully, then you can see, that by insulating a car they fight against outside noise (like tire noise, wind noise etc) also.
Insulating doors, front lid and back lid did improve radio, heat and outside noise dramatically.

It is obvious, that you ćan not dramatically reduce the noise if there is no significant noise.

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Re: Two-Year Ownership Reflections

Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:25 am

Kuuuurija wrote:If you read carefully, then you can see, that by insulating a car they fight against outside noise (like tire noise, wind noise etc) also.
Insulating doors, front lid and back lid did improve radio, heat and outside noise dramatically.

It is obvious, that you ćan not dramatically reduce the noise if there is no significant noise.


It is a very silent car but the insulation makes it even more so. For example, the rear speaker grills are wide open to the outside door skins. That lets in cold air and some road noise. This is all new thinking in the building of automobiles. With ICE engines and their waste of heat, no one had to think about insulating a car for thermal reasons. EVs need to be fully insulated and possibly bring on double pain windows to help maintain the climate in the car (heating and cooling). This also helps reduce the road noise that is far more prevalent in an EV because there is no motor noise to drown out the constant buzz of the tires and wind.

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Re: Two-Year Ownership Reflections

Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:45 am

MLucas wrote:EVs need to be fully insulated and possibly bring on double pain windows to help maintain the climate in the car .

Some mfrs are now using laminated door glass rather than tempered panes. That makes the windows burglar-resistant and less likely to allow passenger ejection in a crash (but prevents their escape from a sinking vehicle :? ). I think that the windshield has a better R-Value (and defrosts more slowly) due to the polymer layer sandwiched in between the panes. That plus an interior film on the glass could make a thermal difference.
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Re: Insulation

Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:10 am

regarding heat insulation, I couldn't yet find here some pictures, so I post you my findings (thanks to Germany) :


Remove the plastic cover

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Then, 2 possibilities : unmount the rubber hoses and then empty the liquids, put insulation on hoses, remount the hoses, put liquids
or keep all like it is and put insulation around the hoses and heating element.

Here at is finished :
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Mount the cover :
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Here the air flow temperature in °C after short time :
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Re: Insulation

Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:37 am

I had my Ion to dealer some weeks ago and they did recall job on brakes and battery holders, while the car war on the lift I took the opportunity to isolate heater… now I got 10% more range very cold winter days in Sweden… here are some pictures on my blogg:

http://ackumulator.blogspot.se/2015/01/ ... rvice.html
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Re: Insulation

Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:11 am

Insulation for my Peugeot iOn


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Re: Insulation

Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:32 am

Afigeinnai, nice job! Thank you for posting the photos.
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Re: Insulation

Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:58 am

+1, great looking modification.
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