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PV1
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Re: Fully Charged
That LEAF has a different dashboard than what is in the current LEAF. Wonder if that is a result of just having the self-driving hardware or if it's a glimpse into the LEAF 2.
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Solar-powered since 10/10/2013
"Koorz" - 2012 Cool Silver Metallic ES with QC - 1/5/2015
2017 Bolt EV LT in Orange with QC - 7/31/2017
Driving electric since 2-21-2013.
Re: Fully Charged
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Re: Fully Charged
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misterbleepy
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Re: Fully Charged
Keith B.
driving with the power of 15.667 kettles
driving with the power of 15.667 kettles
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JoeS
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Re: Fully Charged
misterbleepy, thanks for the post. Truly a massive energy-storage and power-generating system. It took them over ten years to build and become operational, probably at an astronomical price. 75% efficient, but interesting that they can get a generator on-line in only ten seconds.
Only three such sites in the UK.
Musing, as a contrast, a similar-capacity battery storage system (if enough battery cells were available) would -
1. Cost how much?
2. Consume how much surface area or volume?
3. Recurring cost, both maintenance and capital replacement?
Only three such sites in the UK.
Musing, as a contrast, a similar-capacity battery storage system (if enough battery cells were available) would -
1. Cost how much?
2. Consume how much surface area or volume?
3. Recurring cost, both maintenance and capital replacement?
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misterbleepy
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Re: Fully Charged
JoeS wrote:Musing, as a contrast, a similar-capacity battery storage system (if enough battery cells were available) would -
1. Cost how much?
2. Consume how much surface area or volume?
3. Recurring cost, both maintenance and capital replacement?
Good questions, that I would like to know the answeers to as well.
I have been on the tour of the place featured in the video (a good few years ago, before I had an EV), and it is even more impressive in real life.
Well worth a visit if you can make it.
Keith B.
driving with the power of 15.667 kettles
driving with the power of 15.667 kettles
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misterbleepy
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Re: Fully Charged
back of the envelope calculations, so most likely wildly inaccurate:
Extrapolating from the recent Tesla mega battery thing installed in Australia:
Dinorwig total capacity 9.1 GWh
Tesla Australian mega battery total capacity 129 MWh
so it would take around 70 mega battery installations to get to the same capacity as Dinorwig.
Tesla said they'd deliver the mega battery on time or do it for free - I read that they stood to loose $50,000,000 if they had to give it away, so cost could be $3,500,000,000.
Area is trickier, and I guess the installation could be multi-storey to keep that under control.
Recurring cost/maintenance I have no idea about either - anyone else have any idea?
Extrapolating from the recent Tesla mega battery thing installed in Australia:
Dinorwig total capacity 9.1 GWh
Tesla Australian mega battery total capacity 129 MWh
so it would take around 70 mega battery installations to get to the same capacity as Dinorwig.
Tesla said they'd deliver the mega battery on time or do it for free - I read that they stood to loose $50,000,000 if they had to give it away, so cost could be $3,500,000,000.
Area is trickier, and I guess the installation could be multi-storey to keep that under control.
Recurring cost/maintenance I have no idea about either - anyone else have any idea?
Keith B.
driving with the power of 15.667 kettles
driving with the power of 15.667 kettles