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jafcorrea

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2016 with 8200 miles :D

now I would like to buy a 240v EVSE, what you guys recommend?

found some on Amazon and eBay ... but got confused :lol:

https://www.amazon.com/Maxx-16-Electric-Vehicle-Charger-220V-240V/dp/B01HH1Z3DS

https://www.ebay.com/p/Electric-Vehicle-Charger-EV-Car-Charging-Cable-Cord-240v-16a-J1772-5-15-Level-2/17022604045?iid=163202963842&_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3Dd01add58ed6f4138b186aeed9ca1780b%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D282797138003%26itm%3D163202963842&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018A6QK7C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3VBHIRYR24Q2V&psc=1

Thanks
 
Both of the options you listed are the Duosida, one with a different handle and adaptor plugs.
The most important accessory for these cars if you intend to do any travelling outside of a 30 mile radius, IMHO is a dual-voltage EVSE. If it will take 120 or 240V input, not only do you have a more flexible appliance, you won't accidentally blow anything up by using plug adaptors.
HOWEVER, the Duosida only sends a 16 amp pilot signal, meaning that plugging into a standard 15 amp 120V outlet is risky business. The maximum you should draw continuously on a 15A120V outlet is 12 amps, lest one trip breakers or create crispy wire insulation.

Here is an affordable unit with adjustable amp settings and good waterproofing ratings, though I have no experience with it.
https://www.evseadapters.com/products/16-30a-adjustable-120-240v-charger-evse

Lest you get nervous about shaking the EVSE to change settings, consider that a number of us got the EVSE Upgrade modification that allowed an amperage setting adjustment (but only at 120V) by INSERTING A PAPER CLIP into the J1772 plug of a connected unit. Of course that was a safe action for several engineered reasons, but a significant mental hurdle....
http://evseupgrade.com/?main_page=index&cPath=3&zenid=lsm7dmnakj7vo0peiv28d3qt07

Here's a good review of the Duosida by my friend Ben, missing only that point about 16 amps draw on a 15 amp 120V circuit....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-5c-Ixx37Y
Here's a discussion of the finer points of L1 amperage draw with this unit.
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=24895
 
I would highly recommend EVSE Upgrade too . . . . but I don't think they will modify the newer Mitsu EVSE's

I bought a Chinese EVSE when I bought the Volt which has full current adjustment and it works OK - There's a thread on it here somewhere. So far as I know, it's 240 volts only though - I've never tried it on 120

Edit: Located my old thread and the eBay link is no longer valid - They (eBay) refer you to other Duosida made units which are dual voltage but don't appear to be adjustable

Don
 
jafcorrea, congratulations for snagging a rare 2016!

Did your car come with the 8A/12A Mitsubishi EVSE? Are you going to be installing 240vac? If so, do try to make it a NEMA 14-50 socket.

Some more discussion, re-done since I saw jray3's post -

Nice to see EVSEs continuing to drop in price, and I see a number of them coming with a bunch of adapters (which, self-fabricated individually, would cost more than the package deal). For example (not necessarily endorsing as I have no experience with this one),
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5C316H
has a nice selection to mate with the most-common outlets.

jray3 just addressed the major EVSE considerations. Elaborating, two that I consider significant:

1) Dual-voltage (120vac and 240vac). Both of your examples do that.

2) Being able to dial-down the charging current (especially for 120vac to 12A or below). Steady-state current draw can be stressful on older highly-used outlets, leading to overheating. Neither of your examples does that, and the discussions on both this site (search for Duosida) and the links jray3 provided address this.

When visiting friends I often dial-down the current to 8A as their 120vac outlets get warm, and last night at a motel I dialed-down my Tesla to 6A as I wanted it to sip safely all night long and I wanted to increase my range ever-so-slightly as well as keep my 12v battery happy.

That said, it's not really a significant issue with the i-MiEV, as the most our car draws is around 13A in either voltage. It works just fine with every EVSE out there.

If you are buying an EVSE to give you 240vac, you might consider a more expensive higher-power one which would also work with your future BEV. For his Bolt, my brother-in-law got the 32A one which you shake to adjust the current and it's working fine.
 
I have the 8A /12A OEM , charged last night using 8A (14h),
I was thinking the next time to do a charge using 12a and see how long will take

But I need a 240v so I can charge at my job (I only have a 240v outlet in the job / garage)
 
jafcorrea said:
I have the 8A /12A OEM , charged last night using 8A (14h),
I was thinking the next time to do a charge using 12a and see how long will take
But I need a 240v so I can charge at my job (I only have a 240v outlet in the job / garage)
Charging rates are, roughly,
120vac 8A, four bars for five hours of charging,
120vac 12A, six bars for five hours of charging,
240vac 13A (max), three bars per hour of charging

The bars refer to the i-MiEV fuel gauge.

What 240vac connector is in your job/garage?

I'm home now - whereabouts in the Bay Area are you?
http://myimiev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3196
 
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