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Re: I have a secret

Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:09 am

Reminds me of the time almost exactly six years ago when I was buying my brand new i-MiEV sitting on the showroom floor and I was upset that the 'odometer' was showing 77 miles, and I used that as one of my many arguments in my negotiations. :evil: Only on the drive home did I realize it was the RR gauge. :oops: :roll:
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Re: I have a secret - odometer display confusion

Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:10 pm

This sounds exactly like my bank account balance when I gave my wife a credit card.
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Re: I have a secret - odometer display confusion

Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:12 pm

phb10186 wrote:This sounds exactly like my bank account balance when I gave my wife a credit card.



lol :D
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Re: I have a secret - still a mystery?

Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:49 pm

I am not so sure about the odometer display confusion thing. The car was definitely used. The date on the car is Feb 2016. I have a really hard time believing that someone bought a $23k car and only drove it 300 miles. Just doesn't make sense.

I finally remembered to go to the car and get the manual and record all of the info from the display. Here are my notes:

Position - Description - Reading
1 - Odometer - 4110 miles
2 - Trip A - 888.6 miles
3 - Trip B - 888.6 miles
4 - Dash lights brightness - 4 squares
5 - Service reminder (Drive distance remaining until next inspection) - all dashes
6 - Service reminder (Number of months remaining until next inspection) - all dashes
7 - Cruising range indicator - 75 miles
8 - Outside Temp - 48F

Top of display shows a wrench (called spanner in the manual). This, along with the dashes in positions 5 and 6 indicate that service is due. I am not sure how long they have been like that but I am guessing that they have been like that since I picked up the car. Because I often cycle thru and I would have noticed if there was another number and would have been curious what it was and looked it up. I don't ever remember seeing any numbers for either 5 or 6.

So the theory was a good one but I'm thinking at this point that I still have a mystery, even tho the title of this thread was changed to indicate that it was odometer confusion. I don't think that theory is holding up.

For these reasons:

Car manufactured in Feb 2016, bought used by me in Aug 2017. I don't think it was around for 18 months after being born and only had 300 miles driven. Plus, I don't think anyone would purchase a new vehicle and only drive it 300 miles before selling it.

When I drove away from the dealer, the odometer read 450 miles. Now it is 4110. I'm guessing the service interval is 15000, so it is not time for the next service.

Got any new theories?

I have not checked into the solar flare activity around that time. But that is sounding like a good option.
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Re: I have a secret - odometer display mystery

Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:31 pm

bradleydavidgood777, I hear you so I changed the thread title to "mystery". 4110 miles sounds reasonable, as I'm always amazed at how few miles many of the used i-MiEVs have accrued. If it were me, I wouldn't worry about it and the only problem you might have is if you want to sell it before it reaches that mysterious 14702 mileage that you bought it at.
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Re: I have a secret - odometer display mystery

Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:04 pm

Something that may factor in here? I've seen these cars sold "used" with very few miles. A look at the cars history shows that the dealer (unable to sell the car titled it and took the tax rebate). Instant used car with only some test drive miles on it. The service indicators are hinky. Wife's says next service is in 26,000 miles or 19 months. We bought it "new" with 1,400 ish miles on it and it has between 11k and 12k on it now?? Perhaps search it's title history and it will shed some light on it. The service indicators are useless for tracking it's history. They could have been reset by accident, by anyone. Reset two or three times in a row and you get my wife's whacky readouts.

I would register it with Mitsu's owners site with your current ODO reading and see if anyone says boo!

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Re: I have a secret - odometer display mystery

Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:36 pm

And perhaps get a CarFax report if you haven't already.

https://www.carfax.com
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Re: I have a secret - odometer display mystery

Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:55 pm

Good ideas, thanks. I registered on Mitsu and see the following history. Bell Mitsu is in Rahway, NJ, which is close to NYC, and about 4 hours drive from York Mitsu where I bought it. So we have one more clue. It was probably not a new car at York Mitsu. Will try Carfax next.

Service Date Dealer Vehicle Mileage Service Type Service Description
01/05/2018 SPRINGFIELD MITSUBISHI-PA 3226 Campaign Claim REPLACE PASSENGER SIDE AIR BAG INFLATOR
05/17/2016 BELL MITSUBISHI 46 Warranty Claim FRONT DOOR LATCH (LOCK)..ADJUSTMENT
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Re: I have a secret - odometer display mystery

Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:05 pm

Carfax report:
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
02/16/2016 Mitsubishi Motors
mitsubishicars.com Vehicle manufactured
Labrador black pearl exterior
Black interior
04/27/2016 Mitsubishi Motors
mitsubishicars.com Vehicle shipped to original dealer
in Rahway, NJ
05/04/2017 14,700 Pennsylvania
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Cypress, CA
Title #7747401401 MI Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Titled or registered as corporate fleet vehicle
Vehicle repossessed
05/22/2017 Auto Auction
Pennsylvania Listed as a manufacturer vehicle
Vehicle sold at auction
05/26/2017 York Mitsubishi Kia
York, PA
717-846-2222
yorkmitsubishi.com Vehicle offered for sale
05/31/2017 14,702 York Mitsubishi Kia
York, PA
717-846-2222
yorkmitsubishi.com Emissions or safety inspection performed
08/25/2017 York Mitsubishi Kia
York, PA
877-864-3154
yorkmitsubishi.com Vehicle sold
08/25/2017 Pennsylvania
Motor Vehicle Dept. Vehicle purchase reported
08/30/2017 Pennsylvania
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Media, PA
Title #7747401402 GO Title issued or updated
New owner reported
01/05/2018 3,226 Star Loan Auto Center
Folcroft, PA
610-532-7827
starloanauto.com Vehicle serviced

MILEAGE INCONSISTENCY
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Re: I have a secret - odometer display mystery

Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:31 pm

Does PA have legal recourse for tampered odometers?
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