Aivar
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So I bought the i-Miev.

Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:43 am

Always wondered about EV and about month ago went to a EV show in downtown Tulsa. Yes, that is in Oklahoma. After that I started to think about it and found 2014 ES for sale in Michigan with less than 300 miles on it. I figured $9000 is good price and now waiting for the delivery. Should arrive next few days.
We don't have a strong charging infrastructure here and I live 23 miles from work. My workplace is looking into putting up a plug for me to charge with Level 1. So that would give me enough juice to make it back home with some extra miles for errands. I suggested dedicated 20 amp GCFI plug. Any thoughts?
I signed up with ChargePoint and PlugShare and contacted and visited some charging points to be sure these are as they say.
I also have AAA to get me home 24h/7.
So here are questions I still have not worked out?
My i-Miev comes with Level1 charger but I would like to install Level2 also in my house?
Electric work is easy for me and I have plenty of amps at my home but need suggestions what equipment to buy. How reliable are these and should I have spares. What type of extension cords do you have for unplanned charging on the road? Money is an issue for me so I looking for lower priced options.
Also what is better for the battery Level 1 or 2?
Is there level 3 for 14 iMiev?
Nearest EV charging for me is for Teslas. Is there a way to hook up iMiev to it?
What do you think about getting OBDLink LX and CaniOn and EVBatteryMon? Is there solution out for iPhones?
I have lot more questions but I think this is enough for now.
Anyways any suggestion to me is appreciated!

veimi
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Re: So I bought the i-Miev.

Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:49 am

Just a comment that the extension cord must have a 3rd Wire ground connection.

Aivar
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Re: So I bought the i-Miev.

Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:59 am

Thanks.

Does the Level1 use all the 16amp and flip the fuse? Most circuits are rated for 15amp.

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Re: So I bought the i-Miev.

Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:03 pm

Welcome, and congratulations.

To answer some of your questions, the 2014 model has level 3 (DC quick charging) standard. The release lever for this port is beside the driver seat on the floor and allows you to plug into CHAdeMO quick chargers.

Leve 1 and level 2 charging are handled by the J1772 port on the passenger side of the car. The release handle is where the hood release lever typically is on other cars at the bottom of the dash (has a plug icon on it). Charging at either level 1 or level 2 doesn't make much difference to battery longevity. Level 2 is considerably faster, though.

On level 1, I believe the 2014 models ship with a selectable amperage cable that can pull either 8 or 12 amps, both safe for a 15 amp, dedicated circuit.

For level 2 charging, a 20-amp circuit and a 16 amp EVSE will be more than enough to charge the I-MiEV at full speed, as it maxes out around 14 amps. Since you plan on charging at work, you can pick up an OpenEVSE unit for less than $500. If you're electrically inclined, you can buy the kit version and assemble it yourself for $249 (https://store.openevse.com/collections/ ... -enclosure). The pre-assembled version is $479. I know these are both overkill, but I just received my OpenEVSE unit a couple weeks ago and am really liking it so far (bought it for my Bolt EV). I have no affiliation with them. Over-sizing the EVSE would future-proof you in-case you upgrade EVs down the road. If you're installing in the garage, then simply installing a NEMA 14-50 outlet and plugging the unit in is about all there is to charging.

There is a small trick with charging that you can do to be kinder to the battery. I've found that level 2 charging results in less heat buildup in the battery pack, so during the summer, I wait until bedtime and then start charging on level 2. The car finishes in less than 5 hours, so it has the rest of the morning until I leave to cool down. In the winter, I use level 1 and start charging after I eat dinner. The longer charge time keeps the battery warmer for better range and regen in the winter, and the shorter charge time in the summer lets the battery charge quickly and then cool down before driving.

A 46-mile round trip drive should be quite doable without workplace charging. I typically exceed the 62-mile EPA range when driving on main roads at speeds between 35-50 MPH.
"Bear" - 2012 Diamond White Pearl ES with QC - 2/21/2013
Solar-powered since 10/10/2013

"Koorz" - 2012 Cool Silver Metallic ES with QC - 1/5/2015

2017 Bolt EV LT in Orange with QC - 7/31/2017

Driving electric since 2-21-2013.

Aivar
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Re: So I bought the i-Miev.

Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:56 pm

Thanks for information. This is really helpful to me.

Am little puzzled about the $500 kit you suggested for charging. I find Level 2 chargers on ebay for $178. What am I missing here?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EV-Electric-Car ... ZI&vxp=mtr

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Re: So I bought the i-Miev.

Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:25 pm

Welcome! You'll love the car and it sounds like it will work for you just fine. With only a 46 mile round trip to work, you will probably find you won't need to recharge many places other than at home. An L2 EVSE would be a good first purchase. Most of the charging site you pay for are quite expensive for the amount of charge you get for the $$$

The 'charger' is built into the car and it limited to a maximum of about 3.3 Kw, no matter what you plug it into - What you're looking at buying is the Electric Vehicle Service Equipment (EVSE) which is a 'smart cord' to attach the car's charger to the power mains you'll use to recharge it with

There are all sorts of EVSE's out there these days, some much better than others and with prices to match

Don
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rmay635703
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Re: So I bought the i-Miev.

Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:56 pm

Your looking at duosida chargers on epay, they are about $140-$160 factory direct and work fine, but do yourself a favor check out the thread on mynissanleaf and buy direct, no sense paying a middleman for the same cord

Aivar wrote:Thanks for information. This is really helpful to me.

Am little puzzled about the $500 kit you suggested for charging. I find Level 2 chargers on ebay for $178. What am I missing here?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EV-Electric-Car ... ZI&vxp=mtr

veimi
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Re: So I bought the i-Miev.

Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:05 am

Aivar wrote:Am little puzzled about the $500 kit you suggested for charging. I find Level 2 chargers on ebay for $178. What am I missing here?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EV-Electric-Car ... ZI&vxp=mtr


Did you check the shipping price?

It is only $500.00!!!!!

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Re: So I bought the i-Miev.

Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:51 pm

Aivar, congratulations on your purchase and welcome to the forum. In addition to the above responses, might I add -
Aivar wrote:...My workplace is looking into putting up a plug for me to charge with Level 1. So that would give me enough juice to make it back home with some extra miles for errands. I suggested dedicated 20 amp GCFI plug. Any thoughts?
Sure, 120vac over a workday will easily fully recharge your car for the drive home, although the only time you might really need it is in the dead of winter.
Aivar wrote:My i-Miev comes with Level1 charger but I would like to install Level2 also in my house?
Before you buy, you might consider making that L2 EVSE removable so you can take it with you whenever you go on a long trip and might need to charge on the road - for example, whenever I visit distant friends I plug into their dryer outlets in their garage. Wire your house for a 14-50 outlet, install a 14-50 plug on the EVSE, and make a few adapters. That 14-50 outlet will allow for your next higher-power electric car. ;)
Aivar wrote:What type of extension cords do you have for unplanned charging on the road?
Reality is that you should never have unplanned charging on the road, unless you venture out on a long trip. A 50' #12AWG (or #10AWG) extension for your existing Mitsu EVSE will be fine, but you will probably never use it as you will usually try to find 240vac outlets.
Aivar wrote:Nearest EV charging for me is for Teslas. Is there a way to hook up iMiev to it?
Nothing for Tesla's DC chargers, and there is at least one adapter out there for Tesla's 240vac HPWC, but it's too expensive.
Aivar wrote:What do you think about getting OBDLink LX and CaniOn and EVBatteryMon? Is there solution out for iPhones?
I consider those apps very nice but most people can live without them. For me it was worth getting an Android tablet just to use them. EVBatMon has an iPhone version.

Have fun, and practice getting a feel for the exact distances you normally drive in your surroundings and how much 'fuel' is required - you'll quickly understand your limits. For my lifestyle of around 1000 miles/month, I almost never fully charge the i-MiEV, rarely come home with fewer than two bars, and have never seen turtle.
EVs: 2 Wht/Blu SE Prem., '13 Tesla MS85, 3 156v CorbinSparrows (2 Li-ion), 24v EcoScoot(LiFePO4)
EV Conv: 156v '86 Ram PU, 144v '65 Saab 96
Hybrids: 48v1kW bike
ICE: '88 Isuzu Trooper. Mothballed: '67 Saab (orig.owner), '76 MBZ L206D RHD RV

gbazinet
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Re: So I bought the i-Miev.

Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:29 am

i have my i-miev for a couple of months, and like you i am thinking of installing level 2 (240 volts) charging,
have in mind that your level 1 evse has 2 level of charging (8 and 12 amps) so far i am using the 120 volts outlet at 12 amps and it is doing the job. The level 2 charging will be charging at 16 amps, so this doen't worth the expenses.
You will save time but who cares, your car is charging all night and ready in the morning, no difference for you whether 12 amps or 16 amps.
I don't think i will go for the 240 evse.

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