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My California trip, EV observations from a Philly guy

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:39 am
by gatedad11
Just got back from a week in Southern California, most of that time spent in San Diego. I would like to compare my observations of the various EV’s I saw versus what is seen out here in the East Coast.
• So many Tesla’s that I lost count. On almost every trip on an interstate or “main road” I would see a Tesla.
• Plenty of Chevy Volts. It seemed that there were _many_ more than I recall from even 6 months ago. I did hear radio ads specific to $199 Volt lease deals, so the car was being pushed. The ads appear to be working.
• Also many Nissan LEAFs, which was not surprising. I’d say it was nearly a tossup between Volts and LEAFs. TV ads were running for the LEAF, same ones I have been seeing on our local TV here. But they seemed to be running more often.
• Several Ford C-Max Energies seen. Probably, I saw a few every day. I think I have seen 3 here in the Philadelphia area over the last year in total.
• Saw 3 Fiat 500EV’s, which was kind of fun. None of them live in PA, though.
• Saw my first (and only) I-Miev in San Diego, parked at a 7/11. I tried to ID the owner, until my son gave me the evil eye and I gave up on that. I would have enjoyed speaking to a fellow I-Miev owner.
• After I figured that I would not see one (it was our last day in San Diego) I saw a BMW I3 drive by on the I-8. Nice looking color, grey black and metallic blue, if I recall. Looked pretty nice to me, so I don’t know what all the negative fuss is about the car’s looks. Also, didn’t seem as small as I expected it to be, after reading many reviews of the car.
• Saw, almost certainly, a KIA SOUL EV. It was driving in the HOV lane with only 1 driver, in the opposite direction. This was a blue car with white roof, and I “think”that only the EV version has this color scheme. Too bad I only saw it in passing as I would have liked to see it up close.
• Didn’t see a Toyota Rav4 EV, or a Ford Focus Electric.
• Naturally, quite a bit better EVSE infrastructure. Lots of “EV Charging Station” signs around. Also, plenty of those spaces were ICE’d!
• Overall, I was impressed by the EV saturation. Hope that we get the same results(in time)out here.

Lou

Re: My California trip, EV observations from a Philly guy

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:10 am
by fjpod
Sounds like you saw no iMievs.

Re: My California trip, EV observations from a Philly guy

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:40 am
by gatedad11
Actually, I saw ONE, at a 7/11. Also, forgot to mention the Smart EV's and the Cars 2 Go EV's..quite a few of them around.

Lou

Re: My California trip, EV observations from a Philly guy

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:49 am
by PV1
Cool!

Out in my neck of the woods, here's a side-by-side of my i-MiEV with a LEAF, Volt, and an i3.

http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/13430

I see most Ford Energi's south of Morgantown, WV. Very few where I'm at.

Re: My California trip, EV observations from a Philly guy

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:25 pm
by gatedad11
PV:

Looks like you scared the other EV's away! The photos show a few, then none but yours. :)

How do you like the QC option? My I-MiEV did not come with the QC, now I wish that it had it. Are there any/many QC stations in your range?

Lou

Re: My California trip, EV observations from a Philly guy

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:28 pm
by PV1
Actually, the first picture is the newest, then get older towards the right. I bet the car got some looks, though. You'll notice one of the rare Saturn-type at the charging station in the second picture from the right. :lol: The spaces are painted green now, and I haven't noticed any stations being ICEd lately.

There are two quick chargers that I can get to fairly easily. Though I was adamant on getting the QC port (first dealer tried to convince me there wouldn't be any chargers around, so it wouldn't be worth getting), I haven't had the chance to use it yet. I may be doing a road trip up north here soon. 380 miles over 3 days with two quick chargers. After I get the car serviced this weekend (including alignment and new rear tires [and possibly new fronts if the warranty claim holds, more on that in the wheels thread later]), I might take a trip to test out the QC, though the Eaton unit in Cranberry is out of service, possibly to get the new connector, like the Sheetz units.

Re: My California trip, EV observations from a Philly guy

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:24 am
by danpatgal
gatedad11 wrote:Looked pretty nice to me, so I don’t know what all the negative fuss is about the car’s looks. Also, didn’t seem as small as I expected it to be, after reading many reviews of the car.
Us iMiev drivers probably get more flack for the looks and size of our car than any others ... so I had to chuckle reading your positive view of the i3 (I also think it looks fine). But, I'm sure the guy who drives the BMW M3 here at my work wouldn't be caught dead in an i3 (I get to park next to him in my Lectric Leopard sometimes - I'm sure it makes him cringe :P ).

Next week we're taking the iMiev up 322 from Ephrata to Harrisburg and State College and beyond using the QC chargers Sheetz recently installed. I tried the one in Harrisburg successfully and hope the one in State College is functioning fine. The full round trip will be just over 400 miles. I'm now, finally, glad we got the QC option on the iMiev. My wife will be heading down to Exton, PA on Thursday and intends to use the Nissan QC to make the trip back.

Re: My California trip, EV observations from a Philly guy

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:39 am
by gatedad11
DPG: What kind of range boost have you seen using the QC?

Lou

Re: My California trip, EV observations from a Philly guy

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:09 am
by danpatgal
gatedad11 wrote:DPG: What kind of range boost have you seen using the QC?
I went from 6 bars to 14 bars in 21 minutes. I've heard that if I had been at 1 bar it would take roughly the same amount of time to get to 14 bars (because the batteries suck up charge so much faster when they are below 50% SOC). I'll get to test that out next weekend in State College when we drive up there with some pretty long inter-charger distances.

Having charged at L1 and L2 "on the road" before, going up to QC is so much better. It's really only a little bit slower than gassing up - albeit you're getting only 50 miles of range in that time. QC enables us to use the iMiev more often and more comfortably. A 6.6kw charger and longer ranges would help too, but QC stations are now starting to pop up in more places, so it's really exciting and encouraging for EV drivers.

Re: My California trip, EV observations from a Philly guy

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:27 pm
by HParkEV
danpatgal wrote:
gatedad11 wrote:...
but QC stations are now starting to pop up in more places, so it's really exciting and encouraging for EV drivers.


You guys south of the border are so lucky! Up here in 'progressive' Canada (southern Ontario), since I bought my i-MiEV we have not had a single QC station installed, and the most convenient public L2 station for me has disappeared.
The only two QC stations available are right next to each other :@ at the Canadian headquarters of Nissan and Mitsubishi. I know the one at Mitsubishi is closed on weekends, which is the only time for me when I could potentially use it...