sandange
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Sat May 10, 2014 11:55 am

Hi DonD

Kind of caught between a rock and a hard place...
If I had the knowledge and expertise to decipher this warranty book & regulations

http://s211.photobucket.com/user/Sandange/slideshow/miev/Miev%20Warranty

If I had the time to confront and debate the warranty - so far it will have cost me 4 weeks by the time I get my car back - at almost $ 100 a week in gas for the mileage we do.
This totals close to $ 400 this month not to mention the wear and tear on my gas car.

If it takes 4 more weeks to "Maybe" win my point it will have cost me another $ 400 in gas money

All this besides my monthly car payment
Last edited by sandange on Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2019
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Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
200,000 km , 124.000 miles.
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DonDakin
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Sat May 10, 2014 1:28 pm

Hey sandy,

I hear you. And the warranty for the drivetrain does not cover the AC which like Robert says is disappointing.

In one sense I guess mitsubishi did go above and beyond on the compressor but to tell the truth if they programmed the computer to not run the car or charge it without the AC compressor working then I think they are making the AC a part of the drivetrain and should include it in the drivetrain warranty. Maybe your car AC failing woke them up to that. It certainly woke me up to it.

In any case your right about being in a difficult situation.

I guess that $400 for a new compressor and new charger is good. I would not have been able to do any better that's for sure.

And posting this and letting everyone know Your situation is very worthwhile and appreciated.

Don.....

sandange
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Sun May 11, 2014 8:22 am

Thanks for your encouragement.

Maybe we should address a situation like this that is unique to EV drivers and facing unexpected repairs & delays for repairs.


This could apply to any new EV early adapter

As a purchaser of a new Ev
I evaluated my purchase price with the following line of thought

1) Yes I was paying more than an equivalent ICE vehicle.

2) Based on the difference of the 2 , (on a monthly payment (5 year)) The saving of the gas costs, compared to electricity and maintenance....
applied to the monthly payment of the EV.
(costs would break even or better if gas prices continue to rise.)

3) The drive train and battery warrantee would have me covered at least as long as the payments would go on.

What happens when Murphy's Law kicks in
An unexpected component failure that renders the EV unusable.

As an early EV adapter, Availability & costs of Original manufacturers parts are at a premium.

Costs depending on the monthly mileage and length of delay..
Any long delays for repairs have a significant financial impact
Especially if an ICE vehicle is to be substituted, as a loaner
.
What was budgeted as Gas & Maintenance allowance is now added on top of your monthly EV payment.

Optimum situation would be if an equivalent EV substitute is available.

Anyone else here experienced a similar situation.
Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2019
Previous EVs
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
200,000 km , 124.000 miles.
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
http://thecordstead.blogspot.ca/

nt2w
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Sun May 11, 2014 5:45 pm

Last fall, when I had my battery replaced under warranty, my dealer provided me with a loaner car while my i-MiEV was in the shop. However, the loaner was a Chevy Impala, hardly an economy car!

While I enjoyed playing with the sunroof on the Impala, filling the tank was unpleasant. I think I was getting 24mpg at the best. :(

Cheers-
Rich
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sandange
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Fri May 16, 2014 3:27 pm

I'm a happy camper now that Blackie is finally back in the stable.
:D :D :D :D
It took a month but the people at Mitsubishi stepped up and made things good again, even though I was just over the warranted mileage.

Almost forgot how much I enjoyed driving it.
Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2019
Previous EVs
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
200,000 km , 124.000 miles.
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
http://thecordstead.blogspot.ca/

DonDakin
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Fri May 16, 2014 5:11 pm

That is great to hear....

It's true that a month away from the imiev is toooooo long.


Glad to hear it's back.


Don....

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Re: my Miev will not charge

Fri May 16, 2014 10:50 pm

sandange wrote:I'm a happy camper now that Blackie is finally back in the stable. :D :D :D :D It took a month but the people at Mitsubishi stepped up and made things good again, even though I was just over the warranted mileage. Almost forgot how much I enjoyed driving it.
Sandy, delighted you have your car back and that Mitsubishi did well by you. I don't suppose they shared with you what they suspect had really happened to cause those two disparate failures?
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sandange
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Sat May 17, 2014 5:48 am

The service manager explained the had to be in close communication with Mitsu Canada and they in turn with Mitsu Japan to diagnose the situation and order the tests they wanted to run.
Just checked out the invoice and they don't detail what they did with the charger , only the list of tests they ran ,( pla44.pla45, pla46,) and that they replaced & charged the Ac compressor
Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2019
Previous EVs
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
200,000 km , 124.000 miles.
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
http://thecordstead.blogspot.ca/

sandange
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:50 pm

Well I've had another set back this week. :(

Charged the car last Saturday night to find that Sunday morning it was missing 1 bar from full. I figured I didn't allow enough time for full charge
Drove it down to 1 bar over half Sunday and set delay charging so it should be full Monday morning.

Monday morning car did not charge - not even 1 bar.
I had enough to drive my wife to the train and back home & was left with 3 bars

Plugged it in, fan kicks in, the red plug emblem lights up, and with in 15 seconds the car icon with the yellow exclamation mark comes on.

I tried several times to recharge (always level 2) with the same results.

Roadside assistance towed it to the dealer Monday.
Friday today & they were still running test & waiting for results.
Not a happy camper
I was hoping it was something minor and quick to remedy.
Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2019
Previous EVs
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
200,000 km , 124.000 miles.
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
http://thecordstead.blogspot.ca/

Don
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:28 pm

sandange wrote:Just checked out the invoice and they don't detail what they did with the charger , only the list of tests they ran . . . .
Mystery solved! - It appears they did nothing to the charger . . . . and replacing the A/C system (if they actually even did that) obviously didn't solve your charging issue

I'm guessing you're too far away to take it to a different dealer which actually knows what they're doing?

Don
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