nikalex
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Re: Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:50 pm

My 10.9 kms / 6.8 miles turtle travel was perfectly flat at a speed 90 km/hr for half and 50 km/hr for the other half.
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Re: Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:10 pm

Roman, thank you for posting, as these are interesting data points.

After I got over the shock that you hit turtle again… :shock:

After I got over the shock that your turtle occurred almost seven miles from home… :shock:

After I got over the shock that your speed was 90km/hr and 50km/hr while in turtle… :shock:

I sent my silent condolences to your i-MiEV. :)

To paraphrase Lord Tennyson -

'Tis not for the i-MiEV to reason why,
'Tis for the i-MiEV to do or die


The way I figure it, you must enjoy stressing out 'living on the edge'. :P

You have a 2014 so it has the 'improved' battery pack and you've had the car for a little over a year. How many miles on it?
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Re: Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:11 pm

Well, it finally happened; the flatbed of shame. :oops: Bound to happen when one pushes the limits and has unknown reserve capacity.
I knew better, but decided to press my luck this morning when the wife arrived home from her graveyard shift with only two bars.... I briefly charged back up to three bars and headed for work 16.4 miles away.
My morning commute is a significant net downhill that only takes the first two bars of a fully-charged pack, and the final three bars might barely introduce me to the turtle in summer. I also opted for a highway segment that is entirely downhill in order to avoid some stops on my usual slow and winding route, but taking that downhill at speed completely eliminated my usual regen gains, and the car shut down right before it had to climb the off-ramp. In total, I went 6.6 miles on the turtle, mostly downhill. The car restarted several times, but would only go forward in creep mode. Pushing the go pedal at all would shut 'er down immediately. Temperature was about 30 degrees and the car now has 64,800 miles on the odometer.

Of course, the flatbed truck driver was amused and didn't charge mileage on the 1.5 mile tow to the L2 EVSE at my office... A buddy with a rope would've been the ticket, but my wife is home sleeping with a sick kid and the timing would've been very inconvenient for anyone else I could call on...
Oy vey, $80 of my fuel savings have been returned to the service economy, and MR BEAN now knows his limitations....
2012 i-SE "MR BEAN" 110,300 miles
2016 KIA SOUL EV, 90 kW, 27 kWh, 34k miles
2000 Mazda Miata EV, 78 kW, 17 kWh
1983 Grumman Kurbwatt EV,170 kW, 32 kWh
1983 Mazda RX-7 EV 43 kW 10 kWh
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Re: Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:18 pm

jray3, thanks for sharing. Good to know your high-mileage car still has over 5 miles left on turtle. That low temperature didn't help. Would've been interesting to try CaniOn to see how well the pack was balanced at that low SoC. I can imagine the ribbing you're enduring at work. :P
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Re: Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:31 pm

Getting brave, are we? :lol:

It would've been interesting to see what the pack was doing at the time. Given the temperature, I'd say you hit LVC rather than 0% SoC, and that's why the car would restart and creep along.

Personally, I haven't seen turtle for quite a while now. I think coming home from Pittsburgh at the end of 2015 might have been the last time.
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Re: Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:09 pm

Getting brave, or foolhardy? Besides the other firsts, this was the first time in quite a while I've regretted not having CanIon with me. The car just plain works so well that I stopped following the data quite some time ago.
Final insult is that the RX-7 was fully charged, I just didn't want to scrape off all that icy glass. It's time for me to set up a heater on remote control so I'll use the Golden Arrow more in winter... Or finally build that second garage :roll: ....
2012 i-SE "MR BEAN" 110,300 miles
2016 KIA SOUL EV, 90 kW, 27 kWh, 34k miles
2000 Mazda Miata EV, 78 kW, 17 kWh
1983 Grumman Kurbwatt EV,170 kW, 32 kWh
1983 Mazda RX-7 EV 43 kW 10 kWh
1971 "Karmann Eclectric" EV 240 kW 19 kWh

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Re: Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:52 pm

FYI, after today's mother-of-all recalibration recharges, my RR read 85 miles. That's certainly my cold-weather record, and some consolation that not only does my battery have good capacity remaining, but I was hypermiling pretty well before the total discharge!
2012 i-SE "MR BEAN" 110,300 miles
2016 KIA SOUL EV, 90 kW, 27 kWh, 34k miles
2000 Mazda Miata EV, 78 kW, 17 kWh
1983 Grumman Kurbwatt EV,170 kW, 32 kWh
1983 Mazda RX-7 EV 43 kW 10 kWh
1971 "Karmann Eclectric" EV 240 kW 19 kWh

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Re: Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:18 am

Jayray3
Just curious, how did you do your recalibration, 110v uninterrupted to fully charged?
Also -
What's the most noticable benefit you notice & how long do you find the recalibration effect lasts
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Re: Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:41 am

jray3 wrote: . . . . not only does my battery have good capacity remaining, but I was hypermiling pretty well before the total discharge!
Lets give credit where credit is due!
jray3 wrote:I knew better, but decided to press my luck this morning when the wife arrived home from her graveyard shift with only two bars.... I briefly charged back up to three bars and headed for work 16.4 miles away
She was hypermiling pretty well . . . . :lol:

Don
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Re: Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:36 am

Don wrote:She was hypermiling pretty well . . . . :lol:

Don

Maybe, but the distance driven by Jay should've mostly overwritten the previous drive (16.4 miles total - 1.5 mile tow = 14.9 miles driven by Jay).
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