Jon
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Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:05 pm

Fuel costs

Tue May 01, 2012 11:44 am

I was talking to a coworker yesterday and he wanted to know how much it actually cost to drive the Mitusu i. I never really compared electricity to gas, so I told him that I have a 16kw battery, but I usually charge at no less than 1/2 battery level, or 8kw. at $.12/kw it comes out to $.96 and that's for roughly 30 miles.
His reply, "$1 to travel 30 miles. Crap, my SUV cost about $8 to go 30 miles!"

TaosEV
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Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:06 pm

Re: Fuel costs

Tue May 01, 2012 3:40 pm

An easier way to put it for someone is "I get the electric equivalent of 112 miles per gallon." I think the EPA number is based on gas at $3.70/gallon and electricity at 12 cents kw/h. That works out to just under three cents a mile to operate the i.
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2012 iMiEV
2007 Zenn
1998 Honda EV+
1995 GM Impact prototype consumer test driver
... over 60,000 miles in electrics

fjpod
Posts: 529
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:31 am
Location: NYC

Re: Fuel costs

Tue May 01, 2012 4:02 pm

Electricity for me is 25 cents per Kwh in NYC. Gasoline right now is about $4.15. I've figured that fueling an iMiev is no less costly than fueling my Prius which gets 50 mpg.

jennrod12
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Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:51 pm
Location: Santa Clara, CA

Re: Fuel costs

Tue May 01, 2012 4:59 pm

fjpod,

Does NYC have any alternative billing plan for electricity for EVs? Here in CA we can get on a different rate schedule so that the cost is very low at off peak times, usually between midnight and 7am.

Jenn
2012 Diamond White i-MiEV ES
with green racing stripes and hubcaps (thanks to WeeJohn)
Santa Clara, CA

fjpod
Posts: 529
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:31 am
Location: NYC

Re: Fuel costs

Tue May 01, 2012 11:40 pm

jennrod12 wrote:fjpod,

Does NYC have any alternative billing plan for electricity for EVs? Here in CA we can get on a different rate schedule so that the cost is very low at off peak times, usually between midnight and 7am.

Jenn

They do have a time of use plan (nor just for EVs), where from 10PM til 10 AM, the rate would be lower...but the rate in the daytime would actually be higher than normal, so it's a gamble. I've been trying to get more specific rates, but I get a run-around. They say they will put you on the time of use plan and monitor your useage for a few months. If it doesn't work out for you, they will let you go back.

JrCRXHF
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Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:37 am

Re: Fuel costs

Wed May 02, 2012 1:05 pm

In michigan from 11pm-7am M-F we get .06kW and then weekends all day is .06kW other then that in the summer it is .12kw during peak and summer it is .20kW.

They give all of the house that power rate when you buy a electric car and also pay up to 2500 of the cost of a level 2 charger and install.

So vs driving the lifted cummins truck the diesel bill pays for the miev's payment.

fjpod
Posts: 529
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:31 am
Location: NYC

Re: Fuel costs

Wed May 02, 2012 1:27 pm

JrCRXHF wrote:In michigan from 11pm-7am M-F we get .06kW and then weekends all day is .06kW other then that in the summer it is .12kw during peak and summer it is .20kW.

They give all of the house that power rate when you buy a electric car and also pay up to 2500 of the cost of a level 2 charger and install.

So vs driving the lifted cummins truck the diesel bill pays for the miev's payment.


I think I'm moving to michigan. In NYC, our supplier, ConEdison, does no such thing.

JrCRXHF
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Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:37 am

Re: Fuel costs

Wed May 02, 2012 1:56 pm

housing is really cheap to and you can get land but jobs don't pay what they do out east or west.

PlugWiz
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Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:49 pm

Re: Fuel costs

Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:01 pm

Hi - Im new to the forum, but interested in this topic, which sadly died. A new report shows only 6% of utilities offer EV rates and was wondering if users are actually taking advantage of them given the added costs or lifestyle shifts required.

Interested to see if people are experiencing significant savings.

The article:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/only-6-of-us-utilities-offer-electric-vehicle-tariffs-for-their-customers-163384196.html

danpatgal
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:21 am
Location: Ephrata, PA

Re: Fuel costs

Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:08 pm

I'm in Central PA, but have an archaic Municipal Power Company (our town IS the power company), so don't have TOU rates. Our rates go down as you use more power, so it's actually really stupid and counter-productive from a base load standpoint, but they buy huge blocks of energy from AMP Ohio, and can make a profit by buying low in bulk, selling high to consumers.

That said, it still only costs me about $2 (16kw*0.13/kwh) to charge up the i, and that takes me 60 miles ... so that's like getting $1/gallon gasoline. So it's really the high initial costs, not the day to day per mile costs, that are hard for EV owners to bear and why more people aren't buying them. I'm sure if the i was only $15k or less out of pocket, they'd sell a lot more of them.

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