danpatgal
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Re: TPMS Thread

Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:34 am

Just to add to this ... we've had our TPMS light on over the past few days for no apparent reason. The dealer said it just needs to be "reset" (whatever that means), while I wonder if it is the battery in one of the sensors going bad since the tire pressure seems just fine.

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Re: TPMS Thread

Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:13 pm

So when I got the rusty bolt recall done, I had the dealer link up the sensors in my salvaged wheels to the car. 1/2 hr of labor, $60 after tax. Not something that would be fun twice per year in a snow tire zone. I'll just live with the light next summer while I run the remaining tread off of my originals.
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RobertC
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Re: TPMS Thread

Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:29 am

jray3 wrote:So when I got the rusty bolt recall done, I had the dealer link up the sensors in my salvaged wheels to the car. 1/2 hr of labor, $60 after tax. Not something that would be fun twice per year in a snow tire zone.
Automakers should program their car's computers to accept two sets of tire pressure sensors for owners that swap wheels twice a year.

jray3 wrote:I'll just live with the light next summer while I run the remaining tread off of my originals.
I have found that a small piece of black electrical tape placed over warning lights makes them much less distracting.
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Re: TPMS Thread

Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:46 pm

RobertC wrote:I have found that a small piece of black electrical tape placed over warning lights makes them much less distracting.
:lol:
As someone who religiously checks tire pressures at least once/month (but ignores treadwear), usually glances at the tires whenever approaching the car, and can detect a low tire by the difference in handling, I consider TPMS just another costly mandated car 'safety' addition, but which is probably a good thing for the typical clueless consumer. Galls me not to be able to reset or program the TPMS myself. In the early days of TPMS it was an expensive proposition to replace the darn thing when flat-inflating goo was used - I don't know if that's still the case.

Now, with two i-MiEVs, I'm beginning to think that investing in a MUT3 might be worthwhile - perhaps a used one from a Mitsu dealership going belly-up?
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GdB
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Re: TPMS Thread

Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:36 am

Too bad the caniOn Android App on Google Play does not read TPMS.

I am considering getting the Fobo Bluetooth Tire Pressure Monitoring system.
http://www.gizmag.com/fobo-bluetooth-tire-pressure-monitoring-system/33754/

https://my-fobo.com/Product/FOBOTIRE

But at $175 it's pricey.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fobo.tire&hl=en

https://my-fobo.com/Product/FOBOTIRE#user+manual
https://my-fobo.com/uploads/fobotire/fobotirequickstartguide.pdf
General Setting and Profile Setting
(page 5)
(1) General setting
Alarm sound setting, Units and other info can be set after click at "Setting"
at upper right of the Home screen.
(2) Profile setting
Advance Setting Screen
Max
Min
https://my-fobo.com/uploads/fobotire/fobotireuserguide5.pdf
My EVs: Mitsubishi Zero (2012 Mitsubishi i-MiEV and 2014 Zero S 11.4 Motorcycle)

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Re: TPMS Thread

Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:40 am

RobertC wrote:I have found that a small piece of black electrical tape placed over warning lights makes them much less distracting.


I'm thinking of going this way after I get the new tires on my 14" insight wheels and a fobo system. More about that later on the wheels and tires thread...

Is there a sound also or is it just the light? I don't remember hearing it at all.

I got a long nail in my tire. I wish the TPMS was louder and customizable to warn or notify at a higher pressure.
That might have prevented me from driving to fill up with air and the nail slightly punctured the sidewall from the inside causing an irreparable leak.

NOTE TO SELF: ALWAYS PUMP UP A FLAT OR GET A TOW BEFORE DRIVING A LOW TIRE! DAMAGE!
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Benjamin Nead
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Re: TPMS Thread

Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:48 pm

Looks like I've now got a new TPMS story of my own to add here. The dash indicator light came on last night, while making a short run from my house to the grocery store. Under the parking lot lights, I couldn't see anything wrong with the tires and I got back home without incident. I gave everything a quick look in the daylight early this morning and drove to work just fine. After work, with the tires looking fine then, I decided to drop by the local rubber merchant I've been using for years, Discount Tire (not sure if this franchise extends much beyond southern Arizona.) It was here that the tech noticed that the passenger/front tire was about 9 pound lower than the rest (I run them all at 40psi) and further observed that a drywall screw was poking into the tread.

So, TPMS did it's job. I would not have noticed this discrepancy on my own and, had I not taken the car in for them to check, the tire would have undoubtedly gone flat within a few days, with a possible less than positive outcome or leaving me stranded somewhere. As it is, Discount was able to fix the flat and they do this sort of patching for free. They also check air pressure for free whenever you happen to drop by and I make a habit of doing this about once a month. They make their money when they sell you tires and the incentive to give them your business for this is the free checkups and flat fixing they do for you between tire purchases.

But . . . it looks as if I'm going to be getting a new set of tires fairly soon anyway. The tech noticed that I'm actually running on deep tread snow tires! My Carfax report indicated that new tires were installed on the car at the end of the lease period, prior to me purchasing it. But this was almost certainly done while the car was still living in Illinois and at the end of the leasing period, which would have been late 2014, when the roads in the Land of Lincoln are typically covered with that strange fluffy frozen water stuff that we almost never see here in the Sonoran desert.

So, the tire tech advised me that a purchase of actual summer tires would be prudent but not an emergency just yet. He observed that I would start wearing out the snow tires rather quickly as soon as the super hot 100° F summer weather arrives here in June or July, but driving on them now isn't hurting them all that much (it was 75° F here today.) Fortunately, I've got a few months to address this and I can make a tire purchase in stages (rear tires first and the front ones a month of so later.) Discount's prices on the dedicated i-MiEV Dunlops is around $130+ each, so they're in line with what I've been reading elsewhere here on what they should be costing. Even with snow treads, I'm getting almost 70 miles on a full charge with my "little old lady from Pasadena" driving style. So, I expect my mileage to improve even more with dedicated summer treads.
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Re: TPMS Thread

Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:02 am

TPMS saves me again. The indicator light was on when I was making my short commute to work yesterday morning. A quick visual inspection after I parked didn't show any of the tires under-inflated. 7 hours later, after work and getting back to my parked car, the rear drivers-side one looked a bit low, but not alarmingly so. But I played it safe drove over to Discount Tire and, sure enough, they found a nail that I must have driven over. It was patchable and cost me nothing. If I didn't have TPMS, the slow leak probably would have completely deflated the tire a day or two later. It might have caught me at a time when it would have been late for an important appointment and/or far less convenient to spend time at the tire store . . . or I might have been caught in a situation where I would have been driving on the flat (permanently damaging it and forcing me to buy a new tire.)

The funny side story here is that, while spending the hour or so waiting to have them fix it, another EV-driving buddy I know was having a new tire installed on his Tesla. What would have been an otherwise rather boring hour in the waiting room was, instead, filled up with us exchanging electric car news. A few people sitting in proximity also seemed to find our EV-related banter entertaining. After my Tesla friend went on his way, I picked up one of the automotive boutique magazines in the lobby and noted more than a few articles on new high end EV or PHEVs getting positive write-up. Times are changing.
Benjamin Nead / Tucson, Arizona, USA
Secretary: Tucson Electric Vehicle Association (EAA chapter)

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Aka: "The Vanilla Jellybean"
Purchased used in Nov. 2015 @ ~18,000 miles

GdB
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Re: TPMS Thread

Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:13 pm

(UPDATE) Still need a nice option that is not just for Mitsubishi...

There are other options to the MUT-III tool to reset the i-MiEV TPMS. Here is what I found:

http://www.thetpmsforum.com/showthread.php?1530-Mitsubishi-i-MiEV-TPMS-Reset-Procedure
Mitsubishi i-MiEV TPMS Reset Procedure
Relearn Code: MIT-1
Relearn Procedures: A properly formatted scan tool is required to learn sensor IDs when replacing sensors.

http://jameshalderman.com/index.html
FREE Automotive Resources
http://jameshalderman.com/images/import_tpms_relearns_1-4.pdf
Make/Model Year(s) Procedure
Mitsubishi i-MiEV 10-13 MIT-1
IMPORTANT: Verify scan tool capability BEFORE installing sensors. Many tools do not have the capability to write new sensor IDs via the OBDII. New sensor IDs HAVE to be written via OBDII connection, or a cloneable sensor can be used if given previous sensors' ID number. A properly formatted scan tool is required to learn new sensor IDs when replacing sensors.
http://jameshalderman.com/images/tpms_procedures.pdf
Mitsubishi i-MiEV: A properly formatted scan tool is required to learn new sensor IDs when replacing sensors.

$180
ateq Mitsureset (Mitsubishi only)
https://www.ateq-tpms.com/en-us/home/support/mitsureset-ecu-reset-for-mitsubishi/
https://www.ateq-tpms.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Mitsureset-Quickstart-User-Manual-En-Sp.pdf
https://www.ateq-tpms.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/MitsuReset-Quick-Start-Guide.pdf

$150 (OBD! asian makes, but not for mitsubishi)
ATEQ QuickSet TPMS Reset Tool
https://www.amazon.com/ATEQ-QuickSet-TPMS-Reset-Tool/dp/B008SCWXN4/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1487823271&sr=1-2&keywords=ATEQ+QuickSet+TPMS+Reset+Tool
https://www.ateq-tpms.com/en-us/home/support/quickset-light-tpms-reset-tool/
https://www.ateq-tpms.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Quickset-Coverage-Chart-11.11.16-V5-1.pdf


$1XXX !
ATEQ VT56 universal TPMS tool?
https://www.ateq-tpms.com/en-us/home/products/vt56-tpms-tool/
https://www.ateq-tpms.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/VT56-Factsheet-English.pdf


As an example of what not to get, here are a few other TPMS tools which I don't think will work with the i-MiEV:

$135 (missing OBD!)
Autel TS401 MaxiTPMS TPMS Activation Tool
https://www.amazon.com/Autel-TS401-MaxiTPMS-TPMS-Activation/dp/B00AERMVYC/ref=zg_bs_2201766011_2?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=C38KHMVB62FX54HD09Z5&th=1
Can this tool program all car make and model?
Nope, It just a real nice code reader. Check out the ATEQ QuickSet TPMS Reset Tool ($150), works great!

$152 (missing OBD!)
Foxwell NT1001 TPMS Trigger Tool
https://www.amazon.com/Foxwell-NT1001-TPMS-Trigger-Tool/dp/B00P3JOIK6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1487811710&sr=8-2&keywords=Foxwell+NT1001+TPMS+Trigger+Tool

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other finds:

$357
ITM 08001 Sensor-AID Black TPMS Diagnostic and Programming Tool
https://www.amazon.com/ITM-08001-Sensor-AID-Diagnostic-Programming/dp/B00I7M3IVQ

(product support?)
http://orotekusa.com/TPMSResetProcedure.aspx?id=120&Application=Make:Mitsubishi%20%20Model:i-MiEV%20%20Sub-Model:SE%20%20Year:2012,%202013,%202014
TPMS Reset Procedure
Make:Mitsubishi Model:i-MiEV Sub-Model:SE Year:2012, 2013, 2014
Before performing the re-learn procedure below, please review all data in your owner’s manual pertaining to your TPMS system.
As of 4/1/2013, There is NO equipment in the industry with the protocol to communicate learned TPMS Sensor ID's into the vehicles ECU. On some models, It has been noted that you can work around this issue by using a hand scanner to record you sensor id's and a Diagnostic Tool like the Snap-on Verus to hard code the sensor id's directly into the ECU.
1. Properly install tire pressure sensors.
This step should be performed only by a tire technician who has been properly trained in the operation and installation of TPMS systems.
2. Confirm all tires are inflated to the pressure indicated on tire placard. (located in the door jam of your vehicle)
This is a sample tire pressure placard.
Not for this specific vehicle.
3. Following the instructions supplied by the manufacturer of your properly formatted scan tool. Read the sensor ID's into your scan tool starting with the left front tire, contact tire sidewall near air valve and press the switch to learn the sensor id.
4. Repeat step 4 on the remaining tires, in the following order,
Right front
Right rear
Left rear
5. Connect Diagnostic Tool into the OBD plug under your dash. Turn ignition to ON position (engine off). Following the instructions supplied by the manufacturer of the on-board diagnostic equipment, go to the TPMS Screen and enter codes and positons. (Procedures vary by manufacturer of diagnostic tools)
NOTE: Some Models are not available on the above mentioned diagnostic unit to perform this procedure.
6. Turn the ignition to the “OFF” position and unplug the diagnostic tool.
7. Check the instrument cluster to insure that the TPMS warning light is off.
My EVs: Mitsubishi Zero (2012 Mitsubishi i-MiEV and 2014 Zero S 11.4 Motorcycle)

acensor
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Re: TPMS Thread

Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:07 am

Hi Joe.

Earlier yoy wrote...
"...As someone who religiously checks tire pressures at least once/month (but ignores treadwear), usually glances at the tires whenever approaching the car, and can detect a low tire by the difference in handling,.consider TPMS just another costly mandated car 'safety' addition, but which is probably a good thing for the typical clueless consumer. Galls me not to be able to reset or program the TPMS myself...."

Yeah.... I had that take, too.
But one morning when I didn't look at all tires, 5 minutes out of the driveway noticed the tire warning light.
Turned out I'd picked up a screw puncture and pressure was IIRR down to about 25 psi. On a back tire not yet low enough for me to feel it in handling. Was deflating slow but fast enough that by time I'd have noticed would at least have stranded me in inconvenient place, or maybe even damaged tire and rim.
So well worth having it even if for that one event. Put extra air in at next gas station, light reset itself IIRR after pressure back up, drove to tire shop, fixed flat.
Also ...now that I've educated wife what that light means and what actions it calls for feel she's safer on road.
Alex
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