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Re: My Car is Only Charging Up to 12 Bars

Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:55 pm

zzcoopej wrote:
That's pretty recent. Did it get more than 5 hours of charging before you drove it again?


I'm pretty sure I used the time delay. It's been a habit for me to do this.
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Re: My Car is Only Charging Up to 12 Bars

Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:33 am

Well, it charged up to 11 bars this morning :?
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Re: My Car is Only Charging Up to 12 Bars

Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:34 pm

The car drove just fine today. Arrived home with 15 miles remaining and with 3 bars. Maybe I'm getting better at eco mode. :D Then I took the car out for an errand and to get down to 2 bars for balance charging later on.

Then I connected to CaniOn and this time cell #75 (the low cell) is 3.745 volts and the rest are at 3.920 volts. SoC% is 21.5, volts 344. Btw: I have 21,355 miles (34,368 km).

Then I connected EvBatMon and Battery capacity is 41.1Ah, Battery condition is 85.62 pmc, battery soc 8.9 Ah, volts 344.4, and soc real 21.5%. I know 2 months ago battery capacity read 42.1Ah.
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Re: My Car is Only Charging Up to 12 Bars

Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:00 pm

ed5000, so what happened after you fully fully balance-charged?
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Re: My Car is Only Charging Up to 12 Bars

Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:27 pm

ed5000 wrote:Then I connected to CaniOn and this time cell #75 (the low cell) is 3.745 volts and the rest are at 3.920 volts.
I think we all know where this is headed . . . . likely sooner rather than later

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Re: My Car is Only Charging Up to 12 Bars

Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:43 pm

JoeS wrote:ed5000, so what happened after you fully fully balance-charged?

This morning I found the car with 11 bars again and 52 miles of range remaining. Still a very functional car. ;)

The #75 cell however was at 3.965 volts while the rest were at 4.105 volts.
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Re: My Car is Only Charging Up to 12 Bars

Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:48 pm

Don wrote:I think we all know where this is headed . . . . likely sooner rather than later

Don


I'm just wondering what the Mitsu dealer will do. Do they have some battery recovery routine they can try? I'm also wondering how long they'll need to keep the car.
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Re: My Car is Only Charging Up to 12 Bars

Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:57 am

For my dealer, to diagnose, test, and replace the battery, took 3 weeks.

Hmm, the voltage difference was reduced after balance charging. Can you do another balance charge and post the results?
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Re: My Car is Only Charging Up to 12 Bars

Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:11 am

ed5000 wrote:
Don wrote:I think we all know where this is headed . . . . likely sooner rather than later


I'm just wondering what the Mitsu dealer will do. Do they have some battery recovery routine they can try? I'm also wondering how long they'll need to keep the car.
I think your bad cell will eventually fail and you'll get a whole new battery pack with zero miles on it. It may take a couple weeks, but worse things could happen. Nothing like having a brand new battery!

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Re: My Car is Only Charging Up to 12 Bars

Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:28 pm

PV1 wrote:For my dealer, to diagnose, test, and replace the battery, took 3 weeks.

Hmm, the voltage difference was reduced after balance charging. Can you do another balance charge and post the results?

Hmm, 3 weeks could be an eternity for me. :lol: :? In the meantime I'll try for a balance charge tomorrow.

Don wrote:I think your bad cell will eventually fail and you'll get a whole new battery pack with zero miles on it. It may take a couple weeks, but worse things could happen. Nothing like having a brand new battery!

If it comes to that and they replace, I sure can't complain.
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