JoeS wrote:jumpjack, thank you for making an attempt at compiling our battery replacement information. Will you be using a file accessible by our members?
JoeS wrote:Most of the information you're looking for is already available in this subforum.
I guess yes.... but only each user knows where/when he wrote such data: a single person (me?) looking for all data around the forum would spend days/months, but each single user could spend 5 min in just copying his data here, and at same time he'll found here data from other users.
For example: AFAIK, there was only one battery so far that failed out of warranty
Maybe I misplaced the question: I'm not actually interested in failure, but just in "planned replacement". Especially on costs, which are quite absurd: I read they range from 5000 to 25000 euros!
Your 'survey' questions leave me somewhat perplexed, as I fail to understand what the target motivation is for this survey and whether you are looking for European/Russian/Aussie or North American i-MiEV configurations (AFAIK, we have no active Japanese i-MiEV owners). It will be another five years before out-of-warranty North American i-MiEV battery pack replacement will become an issue, and who knows what options will be available then?
The more data a database hold, the better it is!
Regarding your questions:
1. At present, applies only to non-North American i-MiEVs
Aren't iMiev/cZero/i0n sold since 2010? I assume also cZero/i0n owners come to this forum.
2. I believe that the packs get replaced with the same size that was in there originally, but perhaps some European owners might chime in on this one?
Pack was already updated once; battery technology evolves, so I expect further upgrades: I purchased an electric scooter in 2011; it had a 48Ah/60V/2880Wh battery which weighted 20 kg and was 16 dm3 large; it costed 2000 euros. Today, at same price and weight I could build a much better battery: 5 kWh in just 7 dm3! (using Panasonic NCR18650B or similar).
3. Meaningless number, as when a pack is failing it is invariably due to one or more cells going bad and the RR will be dramatically dropping with each recharge.
As said, I'm not looking for failures, just for replacement; so the meaning of the question is: which minimum range does an owner accept before replacement?
4. Replacement cost is largely unknown - ask your local dealer. In the above thread, me68 was quoted €18,000!
Most important datum of the database!
5. You're probably looking to simply identify the country or are you interested in the climate in which the car resides?
No, it's because it looks like each country has very different costs for replacement: 5000$ in Australia, 25000$ in Europe (????), you talk about 18000...
6. km or miles for your database?
No matter, I can do math.
Perhaps add car model, model year, and battery size?
I suggested minimal required data; any additional datum is welcome.