olagon
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:10 pm

JoeS wrote:
olagon wrote:...I have it plugged into a ThinkEco Modlet (to track energy...also use a TED 5000). The Modlet gets hot...
The Modlet has a cutesy website http://themodlet.com/ but I could not readily find its specifications. :evil: I would not use it with our EVSEUpgraded EVSE, as any properly-sized wire/connector/appliance should barely get warm when running at 12A. Hot is not good.


It's rated for 15amps. I have to check if the plug got as warm without the Modlet. Cute device that is awesome for smaller loads like killing my entertainment center, wifi, dvr, etc. when I don't need them.
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olagon
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:17 pm

Don wrote:I think many of us have experienced an occasional failure to charge using the OEM EVSE - Pulling out the charge handle and reinserting it fully always solves the problem. It's happened to us two or three times over the past year

Not sure what causes it, but I make a point of checking to see if the charge light is still on several minutes after I begin charging - It would be a pain to go out expecting a fully charged car only to see it hasn't charged at all

Don


Now this is a tip anyone who got the upgrade should know! Would hate to wake up expecting a full charge and not getting one. Thanks
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DonDakin
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:35 pm

Well it's Wednesday and my car is still with mitsubishi 4 working days. I have the feeling that the people at the dealership have no idea what is wrong with it. Thankfully they have a helpline that is moving things along. I'm pretty much still in the dark but I'll post when I get an update...

Don......

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Re: my Miev will not charge

Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:50 pm

Don, your charging problem is very interesting, as the possibilities are endless but one would think that with all the onboard diagnostics that they'd be able to zero-in on the problem.

After they 'fix' it, be sure to grill Mitsubishi to tell you exactly what the problem was; I worry that they'll simply shotgun it and replace modules until it starts working again without understanding the root cause of the problem. Might help if you ask to talk with the technician who actually troubleshot the thing. All this simply aimed at building up our body of knowledge for the future...
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:28 pm

I would be pleasantly surprised if the local Mitsubishi mechanics actually try to diagnose and fix the charging problem. Instead, I think that they will merely replace the entire battery pack and send the defective one back to Mitsubishi to examine so that we will never know what actually caused the charging problem.
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:18 am

Except that it doesn't really sound like a battery pack problem to me . . . . changing out the pack for a new one might not resolve anything, so I'm pretty sure they would only do that if they knew for sure it would fix the problem - If it turns out to be something within the pack, we'll never know what exactly, because the pack isn't a dealer repairable item

I agree with Joe that the car's diagnostic features should pinpoint what needs to be changed - A week or ten days might be needed to get the repair part ordered and delivered and then installed

Don
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:05 am

I was confused by which thread I was responding to. I was thinking that this thread was tonymil's bad cells problem with Mitsubishi having already delivered a new battery pack. I agree with Don that a charging problem is most likely not a battery pack problem, so some other component would likely need replacing. It is surprising that no diagnostic trouble code appears to have been set unless the problem is related to the remote that's preventing charging.
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Re: my Miev will not charge

Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:22 pm

Several iMievs, bought by the Estonian Government for social officials, had similar issues with charging. Some of them refused to charge at all, some interrupted way before full charge. Mitsubishi changed their battery packs free of charge.
You can use Google Translate to check the source:
http://www.epl.ee/news/eesti/sotsiaalto ... d=65399904

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Re: my Miev will not charge

Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:04 pm

Well hell has frozen over.....

I finally have my imiev back with a brand new charger. Seems to be working fine.

It was an ordeal in terms getting Mitsubishi to ok a rental for me while the car was looked at. It was also painfully slow to listen to the progress that they were making. Took forever to get authorization just to order the charger. Well almost a month to have them change the charger but its done and I am happy.

I have no idea why the charger failed. I came home one night plugged in went to sleep and in the morning no charge.....

I charge oem L1 most of the time.

Anyways all done under warranty. It would have been nice if they could have done this in a few days and gave me a rental car the first day I brought it in but at least it's done. I spent $55 on gas in the last week or so. I was traumatized.......

Don......

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Re: my Miev will not charge

Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:00 am

Great news DonDakin

I'm glad to hear it was not too serious and you're back on the road again.

I was at the Mitsu dealer on St Johns rd. last week looking for a car and thought I saw yours still there. I was wondering what was going on.
I feel your pain having to pay for gas after owning an BEV
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