Gencis
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I-miev does not start. Need help

Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:38 am

Hello,

just got first serious problem with my i-miev. I was driving it and everything was ok. Last time I charged it 2 weeks ago. The charge level was 6 bars, car was standing in the shed. But during this period I used it to drive short distances. Yesterday I planned longer trip, so I fully charged it, drove out of shed and turned off as I wanted to add OBD reader. After adding, I turned it on and got yellow triangle.
12 V battery is brand new (6 months old), I laso have taken it out and fully charded. Put back but no progress.
The nearest repair shop is 250 km away, so it is expensive to transport it. May be you could suggest where to look for the problem?
Also is any chance of reading errors using OBD reader? CANion cannot read error codes?


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kiev
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Re: I-miev does not start. Need help

Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:12 am

Some OBD devices will cause the car to flash trouble lights on the dash. For example i have had this happen when trying to use a generic OBDII reader made by Launch. These devices are based upon the 431 DPU chip. i've had this happen when trying to run the Torque App over Bluetooth while using the Scantool LX OBD dongle.

What OBD device and app are you using when this error occurred?
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Gencis
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Re: I-miev does not start. Need help

Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:16 pm

I was using OBDLink LX.

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Re: I-miev does not start. Need help

Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:41 am

What tool do I need to read error codes for I-miev?

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Re: I-miev does not start. Need help

Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:14 am

Do you get the errors without the OBDLink device plugged in?

I have an LX as well but I've plugged other sorts of devices and an OBD cable odd Amazon and it made the control panel go berserk.

I've also gotten errors with the LX and using the official app as it used some strange protocol settings.

But taking it out and restarting car caused no issues.
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kiev
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OBDII scanners

Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:34 am

i use the iCarsoft i909 (Mitsubishi and Mazda) to monitor CAN datastream items and read and reset trouble codes. Here is a link to the factory description of it.
https://www.icarsoft.com/Product/s-338- ... _i909.html

i found a low price on ebay of about $120 and bought it there. It has a bug in that data items numbered above 256 are not available, e.g. for the BMU the balancer state for some of the cells in higher numbered modules doesn't show, but i haven't found that to be an issue. i suspect that it is using 8-bits for the data address and that causes the limit.

i took it apart and found that it uses the LAUNCH patented chipset (DPU431 and JV700) , so i bought a generic LAUNCH 431 OBDII reader and tried it, but it caused the trouble lights on the dash and wouldn't connect, so the firmware is not present for the imiev although the device looks identical. i may try to copy firmware over but it does work in ICE vehicles. It was only $22 from Uobdii.com with free shipping.

User Lic found an X431 scanner that works for the imiev but i don't have any specifics for model, vendor or price, etc., but from his posts it appears to read the CAN datastream, and read/reset DTCs.
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Gencis
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Re: I-miev does not start. Need help

Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:29 am

With or without OBD reader, I get the same warning lights: yellow car with exclamation mark, battery and brakes.
If using OBDLink application, I always get error message that it cannot connect to the car. It was always, even, when the car was functioning. It looks like the software does not recognise the car.
I can connect CANion. It is working ok.

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Re: I-miev does not start. Need help

Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:31 am

Several of us have had this similar issue when the 12V Aux battery was weak, old or worn out. i charged my Aux, measured it with voltmeter, etc refusing it could be weak, but the problem was solved after i replaced it. i had no tested it under load so didn't realize that it was worn out and couldn't do the job.

If the battery was removed or low for over a month or more, then the BMU can get confused and throw errors.

There are some links to Aux battery removal, charging and testing in the 2nd post of the troubleshooting thread for the on-board charrger.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4079#p36347
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Gencis
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Re: I-miev does not start. Need help

Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:19 am

Thank you, kiev. I will try to check the battery but I think that the cause of the problem should not be AUX battery. I bought new bosch battery approximatelly 5 month ago. I bought 6 years old I-miev with original battery. So my decision was to change it.
Also I am ordering iCarsoft i909 scan tool to check and clear error codes.

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Re: I-miev does not start. Need help

Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:23 am

Just got reply from the seller of iCarsoft scan tool that it does not support EV. Could it be?
I was looking for this scan tool: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322633875277?ul_noapp=true

If this one does not fit which one should I look for?

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