FrostyCanada
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Re: RBS light Alarm

Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:03 am

Guys, what setting blows air through the pack?

I alway though that the car did this automatically when needed?

Like in the winter, does the car blow warm air through the pack?

Again, I always though the car would heat/cool the pack as required.

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Re: RBS light Alarm

Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:33 am

It will automatically cool during quick charging and certain extreme temperature circumstances. We still haven't really figured out the warming, but it sounds like it is somewhat tied to pre-conditioning.

To manually heat or cool the pack, you need to remove a servo and flip a damper. Then it is as simple as putting air to the floor.

Here is a picture of the servo that needs removed. Two screws hold it in place. This is located in the driver side footwell near the USB port (circled in orange in the bottom right corner of the picture):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t5jezlryoo1j7 ... 8.jpg?dl=0

The only caution is to make sure the lever is down before quick charging and normal charging in cold weather. I leave mine down all the time so that air can flow into the pack without having to mess with the lever.
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Re: RBS light Alarm

Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:03 am

Thank PV1, but why would Kiev's car throw a warning / turtle mode ...wouldn't this be considered an extreme temp condition?

I find it hard to believe that we must modify our cars when it is design to automatically cool / heat itself as required.

Maybe the ImiEV must be plugged to activate the auto heating/cooling?

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Re: RBS light Alarm

Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:13 am

Modifying the car isn't necessary. It's just that the car's temperature protections are more relaxed than we'd like. The average Joe doesn't need to do many of the things we do to simply operate the i-MiEV.

As for Kiev's issue, it may be related to the pending MCU recall, as it did state that out of spec components could cause random turtle/RBS issues.
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Re: RBS light Alarm

Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:30 pm

Just another datapoint regarding ChargePoint's new DCQC station - today I had to make an unexpected run in the i-MiEV up to SFO to drop someone off. Since I left without a full charge I tried a convenient new DCQC station on the way back:

http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/88034

Beautifully-located at the intersection of two major highways, one coming from across the Bay.

At this location they're called "Dual CHAdeMO - CCS Tritium Veefil DCFC stations".

Not only did it work great, but the pricing structure was VERY reasonable: 25¢/kWh and free parking for one hour BUT 25¢/minute parking after that - what a great way of getting people to move their car out of the way!

According to the ChargePoint website, my charging session lasted 13min 12sec and I put in 4.83kWh and the whole thing cost me $1.21... plus what I spent at the shopping center for something I needed anyway, and thus a win for them and a win for me.

As an aside, coming out of the parking garage what did I spy but a whole row of filled-up Tesla SuperChargers and a Tesla attendant managing the situation. Busy place, whereas the four CHAdeMO/CCS stations downstairs were empty until I showed up.

Anyway, back to the topic: no RBS Light Alarm using ChargePoint's DCQC.
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Re: RBS light Alarm

Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:37 pm

Cool, nice pic of a new Bolt at the charger also.
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Re: RBS light Alarm

Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:50 am

Phximiev wrote:Cool, nice pic of a new Bolt at the charger also.

The green Chevy? That's a Spark EV, not a Bolt. ;)

Joe, glad to hear of a successful Chargepoint i-MiEV DCQC. Those are nice looking units, especially the LED downlights. 8-)
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Re: RBS light Alarm

Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:00 am

Yes, it is! :o

Adjusts glasses....
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Re: RBS light Alarm

Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:08 pm

Just received this note from my friend with an i-MiEV in NOLA who has an acquaintance who recently purchased a used i-MiEV, who wrote -

"We have been enjoying the i-MiEV, but now it's down. The RBS, and electric motor ("!") warning lights come on either after the car is turned on of after it is shifted into Drive. As soon as it is shifted into Drive it switches to turtle mode, although the main battery is 80% full. The 12V battery is fine."

I've asked him what year the i-MiEV is and whether they were using DCQC and what the ambient temperatures were like and whether is works properly after a cooldown and I've asked him to join this forum.

Did we ever have a final resolution to this problem?
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Re: RBS light Alarm

Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:39 am

Most likely culprit is a weak 12V battery. Voltage measurements under load would need to be made to determine if it is good or not.
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