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i-MiEV is one of 10 top auto failures of last decade - NOT!

Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:41 pm

The i-MiEV made Yahoo Automotive's list of the top 10 auto failures of the past decade. My Honda Insight also made this list :) I don't know whether to feel like a chump for buying two "failures" or to feel smug because of my discriminating taste :)

I know that JoeS has the same distinction. Anyone else out there own more than one of these "failures"?
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Re: i-MiEV is one of 10 top automotive failures of last deca

Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:39 pm

"One step above public transportation". I'd like to know what car they just got out of before testing the i.

No kidding the Murano CrossCabriolet is on this list. It's only a year old, and ain't cheap. The SSR was $53,000. The Thunderbird was never really pushed (sounds painfully familiar :roll: )

I used to pass a silver Insight everyday going to school. Pretty neat little machine. My one friend said he saw an EV1 pass through town, I bet he confused it for the Insight (or he was just flat out pulling my chain).

Personally, I'm glad I own one of these "Failures". It's the best car I've driven so far. If I was going to design and build a car, I can't say it would have the same shape (I would've made it extremely aerodynamic, EV1 style), but I doubt I could make it as mechanically sound as the i is. Mitsubishi definitely put the innovation where it counts (save for the Marketing division). A few commercials would do wonders for the sales of this car. The other day a guy in a Mini Cooper smiled and gave me a thumbs up. :D
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Re: i-MiEV is one of 10 top automotive failures of last deca

Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:41 am

Another automotive hack, uh, "journalist", failing to recognize the merits of our iMiEV. :twisted:

What does one expect from a former artist who likes to drive fast and is now an "Automotive Editor" who lists, under "education", a bunch of high-performance driving schools? https://plus.google.com/105577544254975516322/about

To this day, the Gen1 Honda Insight is the most efficient gasoline-powered production car ever produced, includes all the normal amenities (aircon, power windows, stereo, etc.) and safety features of the day, and is our wonderful long-distance car. Mine has a lifetime 77mpg (wife's is only 73mpg lifetime), with 85mpg summer cruising down the highway easily achievable. I guess the Insight's top speed of 110mph is too tame for him. This car suffered the same fate as our iMiEV: zero marketing and incredibly negatively-biased Honda salespeople.

At least he identified his criteria, I think: "...based on sales numbers, styling and our hard, fast opinion..." :lol:

Sad.

Perhaps we shouldn't be posting, as that just adds to the publicity they're seeking... :evil:
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Re: i-MiEV is one of 10 top automotive failures of last deca

Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:54 am

I recently went to my Mitsu dealer for my 1 year service check up.

While there, I saw my sales person and had a really ling talk.
He is an EV enthusiast and also drive an I supplied by his dealership,
He informed me that he had attempted to buy a use I Miev for his own personal use from an American source but it did not work out.

He also confided in me that from all the sales he had of all the different models he sold.
The I Miev clients were his happiest & without any complaints

I Apologize in Advance
Now you've got me on a roll

I also have a BMW Motorcycle 1998 R1200C with 80,000 km, that has been trashed by many critics & Jay Leno as well. That serves me well and always draw attention and positive comments from passers by.

I built & live in a house that has dubbed a poor mans log home, but we enjoy an attractive ,extremely energy efficient , & comfortable home,
That I keep having a difference of opinion with the municipal tax evaluator.

I owned a highly rated vehicle - a Mazda Tribute that turned out to be one of
the worst cars I owned in the last 20 years

Bought a 27" large screen (TV back in the 70s) highly recommended by consumers reports, it that
was trash within a year
I could go onn....

What do I think of Yahoo Automotive & other the consumers reports and evaluations?
You know what I think of them.....
I've seen too many loud keyboard pounders self proclaimed experts.

How good is our I Miev

After 38,000km ( 23,500 miles) in 1 year - I Say Great

Want to know how good this car or any other is - ask again when it is more than 6 years old and has more than 225,000 km (140,00 miles)

What did this Yahoo reporter base his findings on?

My apologizes for the rant once again
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
103.768 miles, 167,000 km
Previous EVs
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
Total Electric miles driven 145,400 miles (234,000 km)
http://thecordstead.blogspot.ca/

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Re: i-MiEV is one of 10 top automotive failures of last deca

Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:10 pm

sandange wrote:I also have a BMW Motorcycle 1998 R1200C with 80,000 km, that has been trashed by many critics & Jay Leno as well. That serves me well and always draw attention and positive comments from passers by.
I have a 1979 Honda CBX

http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/class ... z2Z3zfCYdA

I've never read it anywhere, but I'm sure by many standards, it must be the king of 'motorcycle failures' of all time. I have little doubt at all that more engineering went into this bike than into either the Honda Insight or the iMiEV. It's a completely different bike that anything Honda built before or since and they sold fewer than 30,000 of them worldwide in 1979 and the numbers drastically declined for 1980. Honda lost a ton of money on it, though it did get them back on the front pages of all the motorcycle mags again, which is thought to be why they built it in the first place. They halfheartedly tried to re-invent it as a touring bike with a full fairing for 1981 and 1982, but sold fewer than 10,000 of those - Hundreds of the '81/'82 models were given away to schools to be used to train mechanics

The '79's sold new for about $4500, but toward the end of the year you could pick one up languishing in a dealers showroom for about $3500 - Still a TON of money for a bike in 1979. This 'failure' turned out to be quite collectible. every now and then, a really low mileage one in great condition comes up for sale and they usually bring in the $25K to $30K range

So . . . . since I don't have an Insight in my garage to park my 'failure' iMiEV next to, it has the next best thing for company :lol:

BTW - Jay Leno owns a CBX :D

Don
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Re: i-MiEV is one of 10 top automotive failures of last deca

Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:10 pm

I would never believe that someone would have a 1979 CBX and a I-MiEV other then me. I share your love for off the wall stuff I guess. The CBX was of built to showcase Honda's engineering ability and they even said at the time that a four cylinder would have been a better choice but they wanted to do it anyway. In addition, it was the first motorcycle to be built at Honda's Marysville facility to test the plant for future Goldwing production. I bought my original CBX new in '79 and later traded for a Kawasaki KZ-1300 (six cylinder, water cooling). However, I missed the old CBX and about 15 years ago bought a replacement that I still own. Now I have a Candy red CBX and a Silver I-MiEV--guess I should have got the silver CBX so they matched. I never thought the CBX was a failure and neither do I think that of the I-MiEV. BTW--I also owned a 2006 Insight!

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Re: i-MiEV is one of 10 top automotive failures of last deca

Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:16 pm

I had a motorcycle repair shop and serviced a few CBX, back in the day.

The EPA requirements had them running so lean they would often burn some valves,
And with all those valves, 4/per cylinder , It was a very expensive rebuild. many of them were just put aside.

By the way does this engine configuration look familiar
In Line 6 is back

http://www.gizmag.com/bmw-k1600-six-cylinder-motorcycles/16578/
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
103.768 miles, 167,000 km
Previous EVs
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
Total Electric miles driven 145,400 miles (234,000 km)
http://thecordstead.blogspot.ca/

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Re: i-MiEV is one of 10 top automotive failures of last deca

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:21 am

Incredible. The i-miev is incredibly fun to drive. It has awesome acceleration in town. Being a small car with great acceleration is why its so fun, I think. Its too bad there was such minimal marketing.

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Re: i-MiEV is one of 10 top automotive failures of last deca

Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:58 am

siai47 wrote:In addition, it was the first motorcycle to be built at Honda's Marysville facility to test the plant for future Goldwing production. I bought my original CBX new in '79 and later traded for a Kawasaki KZ-1300 (six cylinder, water cooling).
All '79's and early '80 models were made in Japan - They switched production over to Marysville in the middle of the 1980 model year

My current Candy Glory Red '79 (I also owned a Silver '79 earlier) has several modifications which make it better to ride . . . . and lots of Chrome on it too - If you follow the ICOA, it's known as the Katrina Bike and was on the cover of the Summer 2009 issue of the CBXpress

To add to my list of 'failures' that I've proudly owned over the years - I had a '65 Corvair Corsa convertible (140 HP 4X1 bbl carbs) for several years in the '70's . . . . my wife and I dated in that car. We bought another one, a '66 Corsa convertible about 30 years later and drove it to America's Largest Block Party (www.cruisinthecoast.com) for several years before selling it shortly after Katrina

When I was stationed at a radar site on the Oregon coast, the '65 held the site record time for the fastest time down the 3 mile twisty hill road leading to the site . . . . and also the 3rd fastest time Up the hill too! Loved both of those cars

Don
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Re: i-MiEV is one of 10 top automotive failures of last deca

Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:57 pm

North bend?

I was at Calumet AFS...

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