Benjamin Nead
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Re: New Sins and Old Sins...Mitsu Fuel Economy

Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:44 pm

This news certainly going to bring the the tenor of online i-MiEV haters back to full volume. I did a quick Google search this morning under the "News" tab, with the keyword "i-MiEV," to see what was being said. It's generally not a thing of beauty. I logged a comment on the Left Lane News site that sums up my impressions of the
car . . .

http://www.leftlanenews.com/mitsubishis-woes-could-extend-to-i-miev-us-government-investigating-91586.html
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Phximiev
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Re: New Sins and Old Sins...Mitsu Fuel Economy

Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:54 pm

Good comment, but I expect that the forces that be and the defamers/belittlers at large will have their day.

It's going to be a tough recovery for Mitsu.
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Re: New Sins and Old Sins...Mitsu Fuel Economy

Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:24 am

Benjamin Nead wrote: I logged a comment on the Left Lane News site that sums up my impressions of the
car . . .
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mitsubishis-woes-could-extend-to-i-miev-us-government-investigating-91586.html
I threw in my 2¢ further down in the comments, as I distinguish between VW's cheating which resulted in constantly-higher emissions and Mitsu's testing to optimize EPA's fuel economy numbers. I mean, Mitsu admitted to messing with tire pressures... let's keep things in perspective.
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Re: New Sins and Old Sins...Mitsu Fuel Economy

Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:48 am

I chipped in some chump change, too :mrgreen: .

I'm disappointed in Mitsubishi's behavior, yes, but I'm not furious, as my i-MiEV consistently beats the EPA range rating. It says 62 miles of range on the sticker, but I can do 65-70 miles pretty easily, and can get near 80 miles with some hypermiling, and still not aggravate other drivers. I'm totally satisfied with the i-MiEV's range and performance.

By the way, there are 2,200 i-MiEVs in the US, not 250. Not a huge number, no, but more than you think. Given that there was zero advertising by Mitsubishi and most "professional" car review sites borderline lied in their reviews, I think the car sold pretty well so far. The vehicle itself is an engineering marvel, and is possibly the most pragmatic vehicle on the road in the US. In fact, I like it so much, I bought a second one used for $10,300 a year and a half ago. Several other owners have done the same, with one owning three copies.
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Re: New Sins and Old Sins...Mitsu Fuel Economy

Wed May 11, 2016 12:05 pm

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Re: New Sins and Old Sins...Mitsu Fuel Economy

Wed May 11, 2016 12:12 pm

Phximiev wrote:Nissan to buy Mitsubishi?

http://insideevs.com/nissan-to-take-30- ... itsubishi/


I hope not, Nissan has to get sued in order to FINALLY honor Leaf battery warranties. Nissan is a bully of a company not one I would want to deal with whatsoever.

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Re: New Sins and Old Sins...Mitsu Fuel Economy

Wed May 11, 2016 4:57 pm

Hey, I'm just glad to get official confirmation that overinflating tires can increase range by 10%! Some folks still claim that overinflated tires reduce fuel economy. Lets see, a 10% refund of the original purchase price would be a conservative settlement, simply compensatory and not punitive. With that refund I could buy the lion's share of a second i-MiEV!

If indeed Mitsubishi is handed over to Nissan, I'd enjoy access to their dealer/repair network and perhaps we'd even get a reasonable price on replacement batteries (but no battery larger than what we originally received).
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Re: New Sins and Old Sins...Mitsu Fuel Economy

Wed May 11, 2016 6:20 pm

Phximiev wrote:Nissan to buy Mitsubishi?

http://insideevs.com/nissan-to-take-30- ... itsubishi/


The topic is really deserving of it's own thread. Nissan needs the PHEV SUVs, but may relegate Mistubishi Motors to a kei car manufacturer, much as Toyota did with Daihatsu.

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Re: New Sins and Old Sins...Mitsu Fuel Economy

Wed May 11, 2016 6:50 pm

Perhaps, but the article definitely refers the new and old sins, which is why I put it here. The 'sins' also appear to be the reason for the sale, perhaps compensation for damages or something similar.
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Re: New Sins and Old Sins...Mitsu Fuel Economy

Wed May 11, 2016 7:49 pm

Mart wrote:The topic is really deserving of it's own thread.

This topic is its own thread.

I agree with Phximiev, the fuel economy issue is likely why Nissan is looking at taking over Mitsubishi. They want control of their supplier.

I do worry about what this may mean for US owners.
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