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Re: Upgrading the heating system to bioethanol or Diesel fue

Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:38 am

At least some LEAF models have liquid heat, so it should be possible, but I don't know if the Soul has liquid heat. Does it?
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Re: Upgrading the heating system to bioethanol or Diesel fue

Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:06 pm

I have got 2015 Leaf and it does not have liquid heater. Furthermore, it has much better insulated cabin vs. iMiEV and perhaps better than first production years Leafs. I would still prefer combustion heater for any EV. Unfortunately, the after market technical execution of this idea is only getting more difficult for newer EVs.

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Re: Upgrading the heating system to bioethanol or Diesel fue

Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:04 pm

Thanks for your input.

So I would be guessing here but - the Leaf equipped with the heat pump heating system does not have the liquid circulating heating system and therefore you can not use the diesel heater for these models.
What year did they switch or was it an option for the more expensive trims?
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Re: Upgrading the heating system to bioethanol or Diesel fue

Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:46 pm

Hi all,

I remember watching this a while back.

http://youtu.be/6saRb8Fh2gE

Don......

I think 2013 was the switch to heat pump for the leaf Not sure if it was model dependant.

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Re: Upgrading the heating system to bioethanol or Diesel fue

Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:29 pm

Thanks for sharing DonD ,
Passing it on to someone who asked on the AVEQ forum.
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Re: Upgrading the heating system to bioethanol or Diesel fue

Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:30 pm

Yes, 2013 LEAF and newer got heat pump but only for mid and high trim. The base trim does not have it but there is no liquid heater, it is air heater.

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Re: Upgrading the heating system to bioethanol or Diesel fue

Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:56 am

I received a follow up letter from JP Parking heater , parking heaters which are similar with webasto and Eberspaecher.
Their site has a nice description of the unit and parts pictures for those interested...

http://www.jp-parkingheater.com/product/html/?19.html
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Re: Upgrading the heating system to bioethanol or Diesel fue

Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:56 pm

sandange wrote:I received a follow up letter from JP Parking heater , parking heaters which are similar with webasto and Eberspaecher.
Their site has a nice description of the unit and parts pictures for those interested...

http://www.jp-parkingheater.com/product/html/?19.html


Hey Sandange - I would really like to upgrade the heating system. I don't feel comfortable tinkering with the system though. Do you know anyone in the greater Montreal area that could do it for me?
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Re: Upgrading the heating system to bioethanol or Diesel fue

Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:00 pm

Hi Mike
Sorry don't know anyone in the greater Montreal area to do the install.
I did talk with a local independent garage in St Jerome about the heater and having it installed and he was keen to do the work.
That was last year and St Jerome is kind of out of your way.
This was a garage that sells and installs different accessories, remote starters , radios, wind shield replacement etc. is there anyplace like that near you?
These heaters are often used in campers, buses, 18 wheelers.
If you have any kind of local garage that works on those you might find some one who will do the install
Just a reminder that (if you order the heater) it took almost a month to receive it from china (slow boat from china syndrome)
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Re: Upgrading the heating system to bioethanol or Diesel fue

Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:01 pm

sandange wrote:So I would be guessing here but - the Leaf equipped with the heat pump heating system does not have the liquid circulating heating system and therefore you can not use the diesel heater for these models.
In addition to the liquid parking heaters which are used in applications such as ours, they also make diesel air parking heaters which are used where there is no liquid to heat - You duct the hot air directly into the cabin. I suspect it wouldn't be too difficult to install one of those in later model Leafs

http://www.amazon.com/Gasoline-Parking- ... B00WQSYRLW

http://www.parkingheaterproducts.com/pr ... -7800-btu/

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