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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:22 am

Ban on ICE cars?

https://thinkprogress.org/norway-german ... .7halmrk7q

Nice pic of the 'Miev also.
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:40 pm

Awesome.
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:06 am

Info-packed talk with President Obama, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Katherine Hayhoe before the premiere of Leo's documentary Before the Flood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxHKsaG6Guc
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:28 pm

PV1 wrote:Info-packed talk with President Obama, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Katherine Hayhoe before the premiere of Leo's documentary Before the Flood. . .


Liked it.
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:05 pm

I cannot believe the number of climate skeptics I ran across during our cross-country trip and am always looking for something to present off my iPad as we're talking... still haven't found a single in-your-face graphic or statement that would leave such a skeptic speechless.

Some more food for thought (mostly graphics) from a respected source:

Carbon Dioxide
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/

Global Temperature
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

Arctic Sea Ice
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/arctic-sea-ice/

Antarctic and Greenland Land Ice Mass
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/land-ice/

Sea Level
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
One-minute video: https://sealevel.nasa.gov/resources/83/rising-seas-by-decade

As far as what to do about it, I'm afraid that I consider it imperative that we globally institute dramatic changes NOW to halt greenhouse-gas emissions. I (thankfully?) won't be around to see the consequences of such present-day inaction. In this TED Talk, Michael Shellenberger presents a compelling case for nuclear power:

https://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shellenberger_how_fear_of_nuclear_power_is_hurting_the_environment?language=en
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:30 pm

JoeS wrote: . . .

As far as what to do about it, I'm afraid that I consider it imperative that we globally institute dramatic changes NOW to halt greenhouse-gas emissions. I (thankfully?) won't be around to see the consequences of such present-day inaction. In this TED Talk, Michael Shellenberger presents a compelling case for nuclear power:



I couldn't agree more except that nuclear politics tend to kill the projects and while I won't be around either, my kids, nephews, and nieces will be. Its a grim scenario that we put them into.
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:02 pm

JoeS wrote:still haven't found a single in-your-face graphic or statement that would leave such a skeptic speechless.

Not the XKCD thing?

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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:39 am

The attached chart is interesting. As in it explains why it will be hard to move to a carbon free future.

http://www.ecofys.com/files/files/world ... 016_02.pdf


There is a whole lot of industries that use carbon fuels and therefore have invested capital in there use. What I find interesting in the graph is the amount of carbon is used just to extract the carbon in the first place. If we did not use the carbon, we would not need to extract and therefore driving an electric car not only de-carbon because of your driving but also because of the less extraction required. This would be true with any other green technology.

Dave

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