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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:10 am

For what is it worth, another view of our future in 30 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ag3b1WCYc

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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:53 pm

dniemeyer99 wrote:For what is it worth, another view of our future in 30 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ag3b1WCYc
Dave
Thank you. Good presentation. I was surprised that nuclear is not viable - 'simply' due to cost, as it can't compete with renewables now being installed which produce at 2¢/kWh (unsubsidized).
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:32 am

Lots of good info in just the first 20 minutes.

Amazing how cheap solar and wind have become in just the last few years. Hopefully they don't get tossed aside in Trump's plan to revive what's left of the coal industry while removing the restrictions on oil/gas development here in PA. He was in town yesterday talking about energy, but I only caught snippets of it (I didn't like what I did hear, though. Shale development is already getting a free ride in PA :evil: :cry: ).
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:37 am

The latest publications are saying that CCS (Carbon Capture & Sequestration) will be necessary to meet the temperature targets.

http://climatenewsnetwork.net/climate-w ... ropaganda/

On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM, PV1 wrote:For having first passed the 400 ppm mark in March of 2013, this year looks to be the first year spent ENTIRELY above 400 ppm :cry: with no signs of slowing down (the rate of increase is actually still climbing).

My pre-emptive observation rings true:

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/worl ... ntly-20738
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:56 am

Ahhh, carbon capture! We've been hearing about that down here for years and years . . . . none 'captured' as yet though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemper_Project

Nuclear no longer viable for cost reasons? "According to a Sierra Club analysis, Kemper is the most expensive power plant ever built for the watts of electricity it will generate."

The Wikipedia article is a bit out of date - Just last week they announced yet another start-up delay and cost increase - Now $6.9B for a project that was estimated to cost $2.2B

Many lawsuits over this. Some Mississippi Power customers have been paying 20% more for their power now for several years to offset the cost of this white elephant and the funny part of that is . . . . none of the power it generates (assuming it does one day) will be used by most of those currently footing the bill

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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:23 pm

I read through the environmental reports of both Apple and Dell. While Apple is doing the most to eliminate harmful substances in their devices, Dell is starting to use a product called Air Carbon, LDPE plastic made from air-sourced Carbon. It sounds very interesting (certainly more so than an ethane cracker plant. Looking at you, Shell) and could be a carbon sink while simultaneously reducing oil consumption. We need a lifecycle analysis to determine that, though.

Dell is starting to push hard towards a circular economy, where materials from old PCs are used to make new ones (fancy way of saying recycling), something we need a lot more of. Apple is taking a similar approach with their Liam robot, which disassembles old iPhones and allows reuse of materials such as screws in their new phones.

I've always been under the impression that reforestation is the best CCS method.
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:41 pm

Its a start and hopefully not a bandaid.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmi ... e15a931d95
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:43 am

There is this:

https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-p ... into-force

But it won't be enough.

This year's CO2 cycle pretty much bottomed out at 401 ppm, and it seemed to have leveled off sooner than last year. As for negative emissions, the only way I see that we'll have a chance is to return a LOT of land back to greenspace and grow something fast like Bamboo on it. But, for that to happen, new development needs to stop on top of a rapid fossil shutdown.
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:52 am

More optimism on hydrail trains: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2016/09 ... ilint.html

and: http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/index.ph ... rlin-2016/

One electric hydrail train is equivalent to how many electric cars?

The same argument applies to buses, ships, large municipal vehicles, etc.
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