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Re: British Politics

Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:07 pm

JoeS wrote:Moved a bunch of related posts into this new thread.

I'm sure Cameron is kicking himself for having offered this referendum.



Likely, he was a decent bloke, but he fell on his sword.


I don't want to see the rise of the right though, we need a centralist government with common sense policy, and we need to act in a socially responsible way now. We need to take the moral high ground and make things better for all... that I hope happens.

I do not want Britain to fade in to the abyss, we are capable and intellectually responsible for so much more.
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Re: British Politics

Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:47 pm

My British-born mother, Vera Agnes Lawrence (1915-2000), would have found the Brexit events most interesting. Hard to say which side she would have been on, exactly. The European Union was only a few years old when she passed away. But I do know that she would have absolutely loved John Oliver and I also find him not only hilarious, but an extremely keen intellectual observer on a variety of topics. His take on the Brexit (video a few posts earlier on this thread) is absolutely spot on.

I really hope the British survive this well. But I do have a feeling that many there who voted for the breakaway really didn't comprehend the full ramifications until after the fact. It might be best for all that Northern Ireland and Scotland go independent and become members of the EU on their own. Whatever happens, it's going to take years to transpire. England's breakaway might not be as radical by then, as they are likely to pick and choose - cafeteria style - various aspects of the EU Charter and end up not all that different from where they are now. They did, after all, never adopt the Euro as their currency, even when they were on board with the EU.
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Re: British Politics

Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:18 am

If you like a politician with a nice English accent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoTSo1uB22c
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Re: British Politics

Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:20 am

phb10186 wrote:If you like a politician with a nice English accent:

I'm not really loving the accent or the content there.

What a perverse answer on climate change.

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Re: British Politics

Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:36 am

wmcbrine wrote:
phb10186 wrote:If you like a politician with a nice English accent:

I'm not really loving the accent or the content there.

What a perverse answer on climate change.



He's definitely a dinosaur. Glad I don't talk like that, wear glasses like that or brush what's left of my hair like that.
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Re: British Politics

Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:23 am

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Re: British Politics

Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:47 pm

Phximiev wrote:No overs apparently: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall ... 0c8915400f


Not going to happen - for a start there are loads of people who aren't even legitimate voters signing that (amazingly, anyone can sign the thing, it's not IP sensitive - so you could sign it if you want).

Secondly, and my opinion was always that 'article 50' the big red button that starts the withdrawal from the EU, will probably never get executed, because some kind of deal will be made, like is always the case in big politics. The referendum wasn't legally binding - which I am still having diffuculty understanding. Only laws passed by the house of commons and house of lords is.

I spent a couple of months in California in 2007, and it was $2 to £1... looking at it today it's $1.295 to the £1... the pound is suffering badly, and there is simply nothing we can do about it. The stock market however, didn't get too badly thrashed.

I predict interest rates being dropped from 0.5% to 0.25% or 0, and then when the country starts falling apart, they are going to have to raise those again - hopefully not too high, as that will make literally tens of thousands of people default on their mortgages, and lead to a civil war. We just came out of 5 years of QE, printing money wholesale and a very deep recession. Things were just ramping up, and then this all happened.

I really don't know why so much of the world has a soft spot for us; we don't really deserve any special treatment. We are a successful country, we do do things in a certain way that has this honesty and 'old school' properness about it, but let me assure you, we have as much dirt on our hands as all the other major economies, and the old empire went many many years ago.

... don't worry, the US said they would still be our friends.
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Re: British Politics

Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:37 am

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Re: British Politics

Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:54 am



Per their Supreme Court, the Parliament must vote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/24/world ... tcore-ipad

Despite the naysayers, will Parliament reject the referendum?
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Re: British Politics

Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:15 am

The country is a circus. The world is a circus.


I assume that the 'ripping up' of the Trans Pacific trade agreement would imply that your IMIEV (if it were still available) would be far more expensive than it is now. Not that it bothers me, i'm eastwards of that stuff, and the PM has some serious Trump-seducing to do in the next week or 2...

This Brexit lark is going to take years, it's how we do politics over here. At the end of it Scotland will vote to leave the UK, so they better upscale on the Glenfiddich/ other unpronounceable Whiskey brands, and find some now oil and gas in the North Sea.
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