sandange
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Re: Montreal to Quebec city fast Charge Network

Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:07 pm

I realize how valuable a recording of such a trip on battery temp would be.

I'm sorry joeS -I don't have the canion setup - I'm still a little Fred Flinstone in that field.
One day.....
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
76,400 miles, 123,000 km
Previous EVs
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
Total Electric miles driven
118,000, (190,000 km)

sandange
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Re: Montreal to Quebec city fast Charge Network

Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:08 am

Just a note that I've added links to some videos of the my trip
to the posting of my journey, should any one be interested.
Also to remind you of my poor video recording skills.
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
76,400 miles, 123,000 km
Previous EVs
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
Total Electric miles driven
118,000, (190,000 km)

JoeS
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Re: Montreal to Quebec city fast Charge Network

Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:42 pm

sandange, thanks for posting the videos. The mist on the water at the start of your trip added a surreal effect!. Envious of your fast chargers - they work and no queue. I only use ours under duress as they're much more expensive for me than using gasoline in our Gen1 Insight.
EVs: 2 Wht/Blu SE Prem., '13 Tesla MS85, 3 156v CorbinSparrows (2 Li-ion), 24v EcoScoot(LiFePO4)
EV Conv: 156v '86 Ram PU, 144v '65 Saab 96
Hybrids: 48v1kW bike
ICE: '88 Isuzu Trooper. Mothballed: '67 Saab (orig.owner), '76 MBZ L206D RHD RV

sandange
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Re: Montreal to Quebec city fast Charge Network

Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:55 pm

Pleasure to share the experience.
I think most people under estimate what the i Miev is capable of.

It was a lot o fun putting it together.
Yup, I was surprised too with the cool temperature that morning that made for the Video special effects mist.
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
76,400 miles, 123,000 km
Previous EVs
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
Total Electric miles driven
118,000, (190,000 km)

mixmike6
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Location: Montreal, QC

Re: Montreal to Quebec city fast Charge Network

Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:30 pm

Happy to report I did the MTL -> QC city road trip as well.
Great job detailing the whole experience Sandage - really likes the videos.
I only stopped a total of 4 times during the whole trip, why did u have to stop so often?
Mike D.
2014 Ocean Blue i-MiEV ES
Montréal, QC

sandange
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Re: Montreal to Quebec city fast Charge Network

Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:54 am

Hi mixmike6

Thanks for the positive comments. We really enjoyed the experience. :D
Hope the videos were of some help in your planning of your trip.
We stopped more often so that we could visit all of the fast charge locations for any future reference, also we live up near St Sauveur - a 1,000 ft elevation climb & a little further north.
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
76,400 miles, 123,000 km
Previous EVs
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
Total Electric miles driven
118,000, (190,000 km)

DonDakin
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Re: Montreal to Quebec city fast Charge Network

Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:40 pm

Well last weekend my wife and I took our longest iMiev road trip, Montreal to Quebec city. 645 KM round trip inclding local driving in Quebec City.

There are 2 highways to choose from the 20 and the 40, both are covered with quick chargers.
It was 290 km on the way up with. Never more then 60 km between QC stations.

It was an uneventfull trip using the GPS I always had a distance to my next stop and a RR to know I
would get there. It was 4 QC's in total usually from 20-35 % up to 70-80 % so it was an easy run.

A little tiring with all the stops but plenty of chances to stretch the legs.

Most of the driving was between 80-100 kmph but there was traffic bringing down the average speed.
Temp was 26 deg c and I was constantly cooling the battery and the cabin along the way.
The battery was still slowly climbing in temp dispite cooling but the max cell temp stayed under 40 deg C.
Most qc started at 125 amps except for the last one which was 98 amps start. I think the battery was getting hot
and the charging was starting to get limited.

I went up via Highway 20 on the shouth shore of the River. Stayed 2 days for a mini vacation in Quebec.
The hotel had a level 2 so all the local driving there was covered.

On the way back I reversed the route. The temps were cooler starting out at 19 Deg C but it was Thunderstorming and
there was some rain and headwinds also we were heading SW on the way home always a little harder West then East.
The charger spaceing is closer on the Highway 20 as opposed Highway 40 So I stuck with highway 20 on the way back.
On the way back it was 5 QC's, Just the way the numbers worked out to make it home.

My general comments are that it's very doable. When you are on the Highway you are just planning 5 mini trips that add up to one long one.
Each leg you just concentrate on that leg and making sure that you make the next charger.No range anxiety just the worry that the next charger will be
crowded. Also haveing the GPS count down distance and tell you which exit to get off is pretty usefull. It would be a mess to miss an exit.

We traveled up on a Thursday and we were always first at the charger.

On Sat on the way home a different story, We were just lucky arriving 1 minute
before someone else at the first 2 chargers. The next charger we arrived just after a really nice lady with her husband and family. I explained we only
needed 15 minute so they let us charge first. They were stopping for lunch anyways and had a 30 KW leaf so they had at least 30 minute to eat and charge.
So we went first they went into order food, then we texted them when we were done chargeing 15 minutes later. It was win win no delay for either of us.
Next charger we were the only ones but at the last one we arrive and there was a lady with just arrived with a brand new E-Golf. She only had it a week
and was a little new at the EV game. Anyways we had to wait 30 minutes while she filled it up to 80% even though she really only needed a 10 minute charge
to make it home. Oh well.... Not everyone is seasoned.....


ON the way up start with a full charge 10:30 am - 17:23 PM (7 hours) then add 6.358+5.144+6.382+7.942 = 25.8 KWH via QC's Arrive with 32%
ON the way home start with a full charge 10:30-17:00 (6.5 hours) then add 3.186+7.129+7.406+4.881+4.9 = 27.5 KHW via QC's Arrive with 23%

Consumption was from 108 WH/KM to 135 WH/KM depending on the leg. The canion data is fragmented so I can't really give you a nice breakdown. Or rather I
am too lazy to compile everything I have....

Here is a shot of the cell temps on the way up and down should be easy to see the shark fin trend (10-5 was on the way up and 4.5-0 was on the way back).

http://imgur.com/a/wEuiC

Don....


Here are the charging details in French but I'm sure you all get it.:

ON the way there.....

Identification de la carte: R2D2's charge card
Nom du parc: BRCC - St-Hubert - St-Hyacinthe
Nom de la borne: CEC-00068
Date de début de session: 2017-08-10 12:31:55
Date de fin de session: 2017-08-10 12:49:32
Énergie consommée: 6.358 kWh
Durée de la session: 00:17:35 sec.
Coût de la session: 2.55 $
TPS/GST 5%
#813762895RT0001 0.13 $
TVQ/QST 9.975%
#1215530678TQ0001 0.25 $
Coût total: 2.93 $
Nouveau solde de la carte: 16.38 $


Identification de la carte: R2D2's charge card
Nom du parc: BRCC - St-Hubert - Drummondville
Nom de la borne: CEC-00013
Date de début de session: 2017-08-10 13:30:13
Date de fin de session: 2017-08-10 13:41:50
Énergie consommée: 5.144 kWh
Durée de la session: 00:11:35 sec.
Coût de la session: 1.68 $
TPS/GST 5%
#813762895RT0001 0.08 $
TVQ/QST 9.975%
#1215530678TQ0001 0.17 $
Coût total: 1.93 $
Nouveau solde de la carte: 14.45 $


Identification de la carte: R2D2's charge card
Nom du parc: BRCC - La Belle Québécoise - Daveluyville
Nom de la borne: CEC-00042
Date de début de session: 2017-08-10 14:38:19
Date de fin de session: 2017-08-10 14:52:53
Énergie consommée: 6.382 kWh
Durée de la session: 00:14:32 sec.
Coût de la session: 2.10 $
TPS/GST 5%
#813762895RT0001 0.11 $
TVQ/QST 9.975%
#1215530678TQ0001 0.21 $
Coût total: 2.42 $
Nouveau solde de la carte: 12.03 $

Identification de la carte: R2D2's charge card
Nom du parc: BRCC – Tim Hortons - Laurier-Station
Nom de la borne: CEC-00075
Date de début de session: 2017-08-10 15:44:42
Date de fin de session: 2017-08-10 16:04:35
Énergie consommée: 7.942 kWh
Durée de la session: 00:19:52 sec.
Coût de la session: 2.88 $
TPS/GST 5%
#813762895RT0001 0.14 $
TVQ/QST 9.975%
#1215530678TQ0001 0.29 $
Coût total: 3.31 $
Nouveau solde de la carte: 8.72 $


On the way back...... Added $10.00 to the card in Quebec city...


Identification de la carte: R2D2's charge card
Nom du parc: BRCC – Tim Hortons - Laurier-Station
Nom de la borne: CEC-00075
Date de début de session: 2017-08-12 11:04:41
Date de fin de session: 2017-08-12 11:15:37
Énergie consommée: 3.186 kWh
Durée de la session: 00:10:55 sec.
Coût de la session: 1.57 $
TPS/GST 5%
#813762895RT0001 0.08 $
TVQ/QST 9.975%
#1215530678TQ0001 0.16 $
Coût total: 1.81 $
Nouveau solde de la carte: 16.91 $

Identification de la carte: R2D2's charge card
Nom du parc: BRCC - La Belle Québécoise - Daveluyville
Nom de la borne: CEC-00042
Date de début de session: 2017-08-12 12:06:26
Date de fin de session: 2017-08-12 12:22:15
Énergie consommée: 7.129 kWh
Durée de la session: 00:15:47 sec.
Coût de la session: 2.29 $
TPS/GST 5%
#813762895RT0001 0.11 $
TVQ/QST 9.975%
#1215530678TQ0001 0.23 $
Coût total: 2.63 $
Nouveau solde de la carte: 14.28 $



Identification de la carte: R2D2's charge card
Nom du parc: BRCC - St-Hubert - Drummondville
Nom de la borne: CEC-00013
Date de début de session: 2017-08-12 10:23:57
Date de fin de session: 2017-08-12 10:41:47
Énergie consommée: 7.406 kWh
Durée de la session: 00:17:48 sec.
Coût de la session: 2.57 $
TPS/GST 5%
#813762895RT0001 0.13 $
TVQ/QST 9.975%
#1215530678TQ0001 0.26 $
Coût total: 2.96 $
Nouveau solde de la carte: 7.67 $ For some reason this charge came in after all the other ones so the running total is a little wrong.



Identification de la carte: R2D2's charge card
Nom du parc: BRCC - St-Hubert - St-Hyacinthe
Nom de la borne: CEC-00068
Date de début de session: 2017-08-12 14:29:46
Date de fin de session: 2017-08-12 14:38:53
Énergie consommée: 4.881 kWh
Durée de la session: 00:09:05 sec.
Coût de la session: 1.31 $
TPS/GST 5%
#813762895RT0001 0.07 $
TVQ/QST 9.975%
#1215530678TQ0001 0.13 $
Coût total: 1.51 $
Nouveau solde de la carte: 12.77 $


Identification de la carte: R2D2's charge card
Nom du parc: BRCC - Ste-Julie
Nom de la borne: CEC-00011
Date de début de session: 2017-08-12 15:43:24
Date de fin de session: 2017-08-12 15:56:17
Énergie consommée: 4.9 kWh
Durée de la session: 00:12:52 sec.
Coût de la session: 1.86 $
TPS/GST 5%
#813762895RT0001 0.09 $
TVQ/QST 9.975%
#1215530678TQ0001 0.19 $
Coût total: 2.14 $
Nouveau solde de la carte: 10.63 $

JoeS
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Re: Montreal to Quebec city fast Charge Network

Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:09 pm

DonDakin, thank you for recounting the details. Hey, it worked, with minimal inconvenience - and the pricing seems reasonable, unlike our nrgEVgo. On longer trips we consciously get out and go for walks while the car is charging - FitBit incentivizes this.
EVs: 2 Wht/Blu SE Prem., '13 Tesla MS85, 3 156v CorbinSparrows (2 Li-ion), 24v EcoScoot(LiFePO4)
EV Conv: 156v '86 Ram PU, 144v '65 Saab 96
Hybrids: 48v1kW bike
ICE: '88 Isuzu Trooper. Mothballed: '67 Saab (orig.owner), '76 MBZ L206D RHD RV

sandange
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Re: Montreal to Quebec city fast Charge Network

Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:51 am

Hi Don
Nice report & thanks for sharing.
I see how busy it can be on the weekends.
Looking forward to discussing the south shore route you took in detail on Saturday
at the 100% electric family event.
Puey Bluey 2014 Miev
76,400 miles, 123,000 km
Previous EVs
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
Total Electric miles driven
118,000, (190,000 km)

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