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Re: Are Journalists Trying to Kill the Electric Car?

Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:56 pm

I smelled something bad about that article, I found a response to it:

http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/mbaumhefner/wall_street_journal_op-ed_need.html

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Re: Are Journalists Trying to Kill the Electric Car?

Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:34 am

It gets worse. Fox news is now parroting Lomberg's article as fact. Ugh.

Warning! The Fox news report is disgusting, prepare to vomit.

http://www.plugincars.com/electric-cars-dirtier-gas-cars-concludes-wall-street-journal-op-ed-126685.html

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Re: Are Journalists Trying to Kill the Electric Car?

Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:38 pm

Fox - it is an OP-ED article! The WSJ is own by Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox, so no surprise, really. This is like when Cheney leaked a "story" to the NYT and then went on the Sunday shows saying - see the NYT is reporting it, so it must be true!
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Re: Are Journalists Trying to Kill the Electric Car?

Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:39 am

Ok, just in case everybody's forgotten, the Swiss Federal Laboratories for Materials Science and Technology looked into all this a couple of years ago while analyzing transportation policy options:




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Re: Are Journalists Trying to Kill the Electric Car?

Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:06 am

diagobd2 wrote:Ok, just in case everybody's forgotten, the Swiss Federal Laboratories for Materials Science and Technology looked into all this a couple of years ago while analyzing transportation policy options:


:?: and...

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Re: Are Journalists Trying to Kill the Electric Car?

Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:03 am

The Wall Street Journal has been facing ethical controversies:

http://www.npr.org/2013/03/18/174665721/after-investigation-no-evidence-wall-street-journal-bribed-chinese-officials

Other newspapers, mostly based in England also owned by Newscorp and Rupert Murdoch have been charged with bribing police, hacking cell phones and emails, etc. One is made to wonder if the WSJ has even occasionally stooped to similar methods.
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Re: Are Journalists Trying to Kill the Electric Car?

Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:08 am

MLucas wrote:
diagobd2 wrote:Ok, just in case everybody's forgotten, the Swiss Federal Laboratories for Materials Science and Technology looked into all this a couple of years ago while analyzing transportation policy options:


:?: and...


Found an article here:

http://www.good.is/posts/so-are-electric-cars-better-batteries-and-all

And the actual study here:

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/es903729a

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Re: Are Journalists Trying to Kill the Electric Car?

Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:37 pm

Are journalists trying to kill the EV? I think so, and so are the automakers themselves. :mrgreen:

Found this article, sounds familiar for some strange reason.
http://t.autos.msn.com/news/automakers- ... ev-mandate
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Re: Are Journalists Trying to Kill the Electric Car?

Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:23 pm

USA Today, admittedly not the world's best newspaper, runs a lot of automotive news both in print and on their web version. One of their auto journalists, Chris Woodyard, consistently bad-mouths EVs as having SO many shortcomings as to be unmarketable. He's never met an EV with any redeeming qualities, aside from liking the styling on the Tesla S. He's so predictably negative that anytime an EV is mentioned, even in an aside in an article on an ICE, he pans the EV.

The cars he's really enthused about tend to be overpowered Detroit-style muscle, or European exotica.

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Re: Are Journalists Trying to Kill the Electric Car?

Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:06 am

I've found many auto reviewers tend to love the hairy-chest V8 gas hogs, not realizing not everyone needs to get to 60MPH in 5 seconds or go around a circle at nearly the centripetal force of gravity. Some of us just have to go to work and back, or to the store and back, in a convenient, inexpensive way. I truly don't believe car reviewers can think that way. Either that, or their editors are forcing them to write about topics that sell magazines and newspapers (a hell of a lot of good that's doing now a days).

He also may be suffering from Wal*Martism. What's that? When someone dismisses anything that's not "normal" or "expected". You know, safe stuff like at Wal*Mart. They can go to the store, get average food, average appliances, watch TV on an average TV, and wear average clothes made in China. If something deviates from "average", they lose their minds.

Now, granted, sometimes average is okay. Average flour for baking? Sure. Average cat litter? Okay. Average car technology, burning gasoline or diesel? Not for us. I've also inferred many people on this board are Mac users. Average computer? Not for us. :D (Seriously, I am NOT trying to start a Mac/PC flame war!)
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