JoeS
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VW ID.4 EV

Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:33 am

Finally, if I'm looking correctly at a photo on the VW website, another EV with a completely flat floor with the back seats down! Charging port on the right-rear like our i-MiEV (best location IMO). Initial reviews are very positive, with emphasis on the car's silence (by an experienced EV'er and Tesla owner). Free charging for three years using EA network. The devil will be in the details...

Kinda wish the smaller ID.3 would be imported into the US, but I guess the marketing research concluded otherwise.
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ed5000
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Re: VW ID.4 EV

Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:53 am

Looks good Joe!

Now maybe I can find a 3 year old lease return with only 2k miles on it for $8,900 like I did with my i-miev :mrgreen:
2012 ES, Cool Metalic Silver, cold weather package, no quick charge, no fog lights.
2012 ES, Black, cold weather, quick charge, and an optional net for the very back. :mrgreen:

Don
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Re: VW ID.4 EV

Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:36 am

I just don't see anything beating the value of a used, low miles iMiEV, and since we have three of them, we're not really in the market for any other short to medium range EV - I think the ones we have will last us . . . . pretty much forever

Don
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ed5000
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Re: VW ID.4 EV

Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:23 am

Don wrote:I just don't see anything beating the value of a used, low miles iMiEV, and since we have three of them, we're not really in the market for any other short to medium range EV - I think the ones we have will last us . . . . pretty much forever

Don

That's the only reason I haven't replaced my iMiev yet. Almost all our driving is just for short range trips and the iMiev does such a good job that, I'm not really sure I have a reason to replace it. Eventually when we do more travelling, and maybe when the Covid epidemic is over, I might get a Tesla where I can drive long range with their super charger network.

I seriously thought about using Turo for renting a Tesla for longer trips but all the Turo cars have 600 mile limits last I checked and my in-laws have a beach cabin down in San Diego that we like to drive down to. The 600 mile limit eliminates that choice since it's about a 1,000 miles to drive round trip. I can't blame them for trying to keep the mileage low for things like resale values, etc. but I think that's a leftover from the gas car paradigm whose drivetrain wears out quicker.
2012 ES, Cool Metalic Silver, cold weather package, no quick charge, no fog lights.
2012 ES, Black, cold weather, quick charge, and an optional net for the very back. :mrgreen:

Don
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Re: VW ID.4 EV

Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:06 am

As Joe can probably elaborate on, even when you own a Tesla for longer trips, it still makes economic sense to keep an iMiEV (or two) for your every day driving - They are much more practical vehicles for short range daily trips than . . . . just about anything else

We have two 'long range' cars - A 2017 Volt and a 2014 Ford Transit Connect mini-van. Because we drive iMiEV's every day for 90% of our transportation needs, the other cars only get used for what they do best - Longer range travel and since we don't 'waste them' driving them around town, they're gonna last us a lifetime too - We may go through a few trickle chargers, but the cars will last a long time. The 2014 has 30,000 miles on it, the Volt 25,000 . . . . but 20,000 of those were already on it when we bought it 2 years ago. At this rate, neither one will see 100K in the next 10 years - Maybe in the next 15, but it might take even longer than that

Daily driving a $5K EV so your $40K whatever can languish in the garage is a huge money saver, in more ways than one

Don
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2012 iMiEV SE Premium, Raspberry Metallic
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Re: VW ID.4 EV

Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:42 am

JoeS wrote:Charging port on the right-rear like our i-MiEV (best location IMO).

How do you figure?

Of course, it's going to vary based on your situation; and if you've already optimized for an i-MiEV, then I can see where you'd want a replacement to use the same location. But, to the extent I can be objective about it, it seems to me that the best positions are:

1. The front (like the Leaf). This corresponds best to the most common arrangement (by far) seen with EVSEs in parking lots, assuming you're not one of those people who prefer to back into a space. (I'm not, nor are most people. I realize there are a few ardent backers here.)

2. Left front (driver's side). I don't see this as inherently better, BUT it seems to be the most common among current EV models. That means that future EVSE placements may be optimized accordingly, so then your car would match. It may also be easier for the driver than moving to the other side, or the back, assuming a front-facing EVSE.

ed5000
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Re: VW ID.4 EV

Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:37 pm

I indulged myself in a few video reviews of the ID.4 this weekend and I was pleasantly surprised by all of the reviews. The reviewers had all positive comments and gave it high marks for range, comfort, style and price.

One guy did complain about the car having transmission creep and not being able to turn it off during his short test drive but, someone in the comments said there was a way to turn it off in the car's menu.

Right now, the price is $39k for one with a 80 kwh battery but there is supposed to be one with a 50 Kwh battery for less $ in the future.
2012 ES, Cool Metalic Silver, cold weather package, no quick charge, no fog lights.
2012 ES, Black, cold weather, quick charge, and an optional net for the very back. :mrgreen:

JoeS
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Re: VW ID.4 EV

Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:51 am

wmcbrine wrote:
JoeS wrote:Charging port on the right-rear like our i-MiEV (best location IMO).
How do you figure?...
wmcbrine, I agree that the front port location is good and am primarily dismayed by it becoming prevalent on the left side of the car. Thought I'd start a separate topic about this here and welcome further comments on that thread. :)
EVs: Two '12 Wht/Blu SE Prem., '13 TeslaMS85, three 156v CorbinSparrowsLi(NMC), 24v EcoScoot(LiFePO4)
EV Conv: 156v '86 Ram PU, 144v '65 Saab96
Hybrids: 48v1kW bike
Mothballed ICE: Orig.Owner '67 Saab96V4, '88 IsuzuTrooper; '76 MBZ L206D RHD RV

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