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Re: Life with Chevy Bolt EV

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:32 am
by phb10186
NeilBlanchard wrote:We just got our Bolt EV about 2 weeks ago. In general, it is wonderful. Two EV-centric niggles: no light in the charging port, and no coasting in D.

We are a tall family, and we fit in the Bolt EV better than any other car (let alone any other EV!), so there's that. It is the longest range EV that we can afford - it is expensive, but with the incentives we get, we can do it.

It is practical - we require a hatchback. It is nimble. One general niggle: on some bumps cause a noticeable jounce, that may be a from a slight under-dampening in the rear suspension?

Having an EV with this much range - is a revelation! Even with the "hilltop reserve" setting, we see a range of ~290 miles. Which is amazing.


I agree that 290 miles is clearly better than 70, and if I did a high mileage, I would choose something like that - however GM have not released it in the UK, and the closest thing I could get is a Hyundai Ionic, which has also had extremely good reports, so it sounds like whatever future people want, its parity with what they were used to with their old ICE cars - and I totally understand that comfort zone.

With this sort of range, and more manufacturers getting in to the EV segment, it's actually quite easy to see that Tesla may end up a victim of their own success - especially when the likes of people such as GM, Toyota and Hyundai can make the car part of the EV better and/ or cheaper.

I read somewhere (annoyingly cant find the link) that Toyota are planning a 200-300 mile EV with half the battery size of the Model S, meaning that things are about to heat up quite soon, and the competition is going to get a lot more fierce - be interesting to see what that does to Tesla sales. Not that I dislike Tesla as all - I just think they are very expensive for what you get, and relatively speaking, there's a Toyota dealership on every street corner.

Re: Life with Chevy Bolt EV

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:11 pm
by PV1
Awesome!

Wow, 290 miles with Hilltop Reserve, that's considerably better than what I'm getting. I usually see around 280 at full charge and 250 with Hilltop Reserve.

My only complaint so far are the automatic lights and the fact that I can't manually override its night time setting. If I manually toggle the lights off, the screens stay dim.

Re: Life with Chevy Bolt EV

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:32 pm
by wmcbrine
phb10186 wrote:I read somewhere (annoyingly cant find the link) that Toyota are planning a 200-300 mile EV with half the battery size of the Model S

I'll believe that when I see it. I think at this stage it may be more "musing about" than "planning".

Let me put it this way: Toyota do not deserve for you, or anyone, to wait for any new EV they might someday produce. They're late to the game -- they pushed hydrogen fuel cell over BEV for years, and have even trashed BEV technology in ads. Such BEVs as they themselves produced (two generations of RAV4 EVs) were a handful of token compliance cars. Currently they build one PHEV (Prius Prime), with just about the worst pure-EV range of any PHEV made.

Re: Life with Chevy Bolt EV

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:21 am
by phb10186
wmcbrine wrote:
phb10186 wrote:I read somewhere (annoyingly cant find the link) that Toyota are planning a 200-300 mile EV with half the battery size of the Model S

I'll believe that when I see it. I think at this stage it may be more "musing about" than "planning".

Let me put it this way: Toyota do not deserve for you, or anyone, to wait for any new EV they might someday produce. They're late to the game -- they pushed hydrogen fuel cell over BEV for years, and have even trashed BEV technology in ads. Such BEVs as they themselves produced (two generations of RAV4 EVs) were a handful of token compliance cars. Currently they build one PHEV (Prius Prime), with just about the worst pure-EV range of any PHEV made.


I agree with you 100%. The only things i'll say are things we all know, and are that:

1. Toyota invested loads into HFC, and wanted to wait, but the market moved to EV as the tech was more accessible.

2. The sheer amount of batteries needed creates a very long lag phase for full EV roll-out, and we are really still at the beginning of that curve still I think.

3. Toyota, for the the most part, have been innovators in the production process, rather than technological innovators mostly - so the main point I was trying to convey is that if they were to make the move to high volume EV vehicles, it could be appreciated that that would change the EV market a fair bit. Toyota tend to produce vehicles for the masses, and not vehicles where the technology leads to a a super-normal price point, as they are a high volume producer in every way.

4. It would be wrong to believe that a company like Toyota will not have been working very hard behind the scenes to perfect BEV technology.

Re: Life with Chevy Bolt EV

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:43 pm
by tigger19687
I am hopefully picking up a Bolt Premier tomorrow.
I just need to have something that goes further and my truck is getting old. Better to sell it while it is still worth something.

Le Sigh, I liked the 'i' but not being able to go far because you can't turn on the Heat is killing me. hahahaha

Now if they would have more FREE CCS chargers !

Re: Life with Chevy Bolt EV

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:08 am
by iwatson
tigger19687 wrote:I am hopefully picking up a Bolt Premier tomorrow.


Congrats! I am quite envious.

Re: Life with Chevy Bolt EV

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:56 pm
by tigger19687
Anyone in MASS looking to buy a Bolt EV needs to go to https://www.massenergy.org/drivegreen
I got $5,500 off MSRP, no qual or anything, just had to ask for it at Quirk Chevy in Braintree. They have the BEST people and I was in and out in 2.5 hrs WITH a trade in. Small hang up with cleaning the Bolt that still had all the covers on it.

This is the table with all the discounts/dealers for the Drive Greeen with Mass Energy. They have other electric cars too
http://massenergywebservices.com/driveg ... le-all.php



I couldn't wait for the Tesla 3 to come out. too many back ordered so this has 238 mile per charge.
Drives nice.
No I will donate my i-MiEV to WBUR talk radio. I doubt anyone around wants it and I already transferred the plates to the Bolt.