JoeS
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Re: Hatched a Tesla

Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:20 am

Some photos from our recent trip. This first one in Bellevue WA showing the newly-purchased J1772 extension cable in use as the ChargePoint L2 EVSE cable did not reach the left rear of the Tesla in this parking spot - another plus for the i-MiEV in this scenario.

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The free Greenlots DCQC EVSE in North Vancouver. First time I used my CHAdeMO adapter with the Tesla. Note the front of the car protruding into the fire hydrant restricted zone.

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Snapshot at Latitude 50N by Campbell River on Vancouver Island. I have many fond memories cruising here in both my catamaran and trimaran, including the not-so-nice 1989 trimaran dismasting (while singlehanding) exactly in the area shown in this picture. Unexpected highlight of this Tesla trip was the hike to the fantastic Elk Falls Provincial Park Suspension Bridge.

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EV Conv: 156v '86 Ram PU, 144v '65 Saab 96
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Re: Hatched a Tesla

Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:50 am

Ah, Bellevue! . . . . my old home town - Graduated from high school there. When I left there eons ago the population was about 10% of what it is today - It did increase by nearly 400% between 1960 and 1070 due to the opening of the bridges across Lake Washington. I don't recall a building over 5 stories tall when I left to go in the Air Force. What a change!!

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Re: Hatched a Tesla

Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:10 pm

I've been reading too much Seeking Alpha lately, but if Model S owners are indeed averaging $1450 per year in maintenance cost, that kills a lot of the benefit in the EV ownership equation. :oops:
The i-MiEV has certainly met the promise of negligible maintenance costs, save the few free recalls.

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Re: Hatched a Tesla

Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:33 pm

That DCQC Eaton unit in north Vancouver is just like the one here that always kicks the mains breaker whenever i tried to charge the kiev...
kiev = kenny's innovative electric vehicle

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Re: Hatched a Tesla

Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:45 pm

kiev wrote:That DCQC Eaton unit in north Vancouver is just like the one here that always kicks the mains breaker whenever i tried to charge the kiev...
hmmm, maybe I should drive my i-MiEV the 1500 miles up to Vancouver to try it out... :roll:

jray3 wrote:I've been reading too much Seeking Alpha lately, but if Model S owners are indeed averaging $1450 per year in maintenance cost…
OMG, I must be doing something wrong! So far my Tesla has proven to have the same maintenance costs as my i-MiEV: ZERO! I take it back, if tire replacement counts as maintenance then I've replaced tires on the i-MiEVs but haven't done that on the Tesla yet.

Right now I'm sitting at just-short-of 50,000 miles when the original warranty expires (except for the battery and drivetrain).

Let's see, when I bought the car (which had never been in for routine maintenance) I should have gone and done that for $600+

Now, after my 20,000 miles racked up in six months I should have taken it in for the 48K-mile maintenance at $1200+

Then I should have signed up for the extended warranty at $4000 (although there's some question of my eligibility for this).

Now, Tesla has given my luxury car free fuel for over 20,000 miles … figure that was worth $3,000 savings compared to an ICE vehicle.

Also, I haven't gone in for routine oil changes and all that other malarkey associated with ICEs … good for at least another $500.

Thus, adding it all up I have $9,300 in my pocket to cover the future costs of my present transgressions.

Now, what do you get when you take the car in for the annual 'maintenance'? Umm, they give you a new battery for your keychain and a new set of windshield wipers and a cabin filter… and inspect a whole bunch of the usual stuff, but no wheel alignment.

For the major maintenance, there are three significant items - brake fluid replacement, a/c recharge. and battery coolant replacement. I understand the brake fluid and will probably do it myself on a nice day one of these years (but intend to have a brake fluid analysis performed first), the a/c is still working fine, thank you, so nothing needs to be recharged, but the battery coolant replacement has me perplexed: since nothing has leaked out, what is there in that fluid to 'wear out' and so why touch it? I really am worried about someone damaging seals in each of those procedures.

The few rare times I've had 'professionals' touch any of my cars they inevitably managed to damage something.

One of the biggest disillusionments in my life was maybe 25 years ago when I was retrieving my parents' Buick from the shop for a ridiculously-expensive fuel pump replacement and I inadvertently stumbled into the back workers' area and there saw this huge sign admonishing/asking the staff if they had recommended additional work and parts on the car related to the issue the car was in the shop for … sure enough, they had been talked into a wiring harness! Gawd, was I naive!

I'm still researching the Tesla Motors Club website for maintenance-related information to find out just how misguided my perspective is.
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Re: Hatched a Tesla. Same Here, X90D

Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:57 pm

I seem to be following in JoeS' footsteps. After five years of daily driving my beloved i-MiEV (and my brother buying two new ones), last month I bought a new Tesla, X90D. The i-MiEV is still my daily driver, since the Tesla is really my wife's car. We ordered the Tesla in 2014, two and a half years ago. The i-MiEV is a joy to drive and the Tesla is even more so. If Mitsubishi had developed and sold a bigger battery SUV EV, I'm sure I would have bought it.

We don't need to tell this forum how awkward it now feels to drive a fossil vehicle. "Can't you smell it. Can't you feel it. Fossil cars are bad... They are wrong. Evil even." Just put Solar PV on your roof and drive on sunshine. There is finally a compelling alternative. And the Tesla is truly a compelling vehicle.

I am concerned about Tesla maintenance, since in 5 years, the i-MiEV maintenance has been so low. The i-MiEV needed tires, a windshield(stone cracked), the 12V battery, wiper blades. and I've been meaning to change the differential oil. The traction pack developed a bad cell so Mitsubishi replaced the pack under warranty. I've never completely changed glycol coolants, but only added to them.

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Re: Hatched a Tesla

Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:37 pm

Congratulations! The X is a really nice vehicle, even if it is an SUV :lol: .

One neat thing I saw is that when you lock it with the fob, it will automatically close the front doors, falcon doors, and the hatch. I'd call it insane, but that was three years ago in the Tesla world (now going beyond Ludicrous into plaid territory).
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Re: Hatched a Tesla

Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:19 pm

Hey FiddlerJohn, as you are one of the very early i-MiEV adopters, congratulations on the Tesla! Wow, you went whole-hog in buying a new X! Presumably you got in under the January 15 wire, as there must be something psychological about the satisfaction of not paying for Tesla's S u p e r C h a r g e r s, even though it was paid for up front and the recurring cost is really negligible.

Even though I need a large tow vehicle for my big boat, I couldn't bring myself to splurge on the X, so the old Isuzu Trooper will valiantly soldier on. Towing Rig.

As far as Telsa maintenance - for 50,000 miles you have no worries, but Tesla does sock it to you with the 'annual' maintenance if you wish to use it. My used Tesla predecessor didn't and neither have I, but I just crossed 50K miles so the clock is ticking...

BTW must announce here that this week the San Francisco Bay Area Air Quality Management District paid us $1000 to take my wife's venerable 1983 Toyota off the road. Original engine 311K miles, one clutch, one alternator, one starter replacement and nothing else, and still ticking like a Swiss watch as she drove it to the crusher. She shed a tear. :( So, we're still whittling down our ICE vehicles and the classic Saab collection will have to go in addition to Myrtle.
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Re: Hatched a Tesla

Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:55 am

Congratulations FiddlerJohn,
:D

That's quite the change up to the X .
The experience must be worlds apart.
We're good with our Miev for now and waiting it out for the Model 3.
It's getting closer!!!
Enjoy and drive safe
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76,400 miles, 123,000 km
Previous EVs
Blackie - 2012 ES Miev 2 years - 67,000 km / (41,630 miles)
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118,000, (190,000 km)

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Re: Hatched a Tesla

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:44 pm

Only in California would one hop into a car and take a 550mile daytrip just to have a look at some bloomin' flowers in the Southern California desert last week. That plus a couple of circuitous-route trips up to Oregon and we've done 3000 miles in the last few weeks, rivalling Rick's cross-country Route 66 distance but only driving the Tesla for eight days in this timeframe.

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EV Conv: 156v '86 Ram PU, 144v '65 Saab 96
Hybrids: 48v1kW bike
ICE: '88 Isuzu Trooper. Mothballed: '67 Saab (orig.owner), '76 MBZ L206D RHD RV

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