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Re: Tesla Model 3

Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:14 am

Its' great to be reading through this thread and learning a whole bunch of stuff through the snippets that people are posting here. With all the hype there is in the car world about its release, I'm just waiting for someone here to actually get their hands on it so we can hear whether it really lives up to all the expectations...

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Re: Tesla Model 3

Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:58 am

I recently heard that the Model 3 will come with "Michelin Green" tires.
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:57 am

We had the wonderful opportunity to see two Model 3 RCs on our trip. These were both spotted pulling into Tesla HQ at the same time.

Really nice looking car, although it's not much smaller than the Model S. The nose is shorter and the car is perhaps a tad narrower than the S, but it's not as big of a difference as I was expecting. Good for interior room, but the Bolt offers smaller exterior dimensions while maintaining interior room, like the I-MiEV.

Slightly out of order, as these were taken by different devices. Enjoy!

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Re: Tesla Model 3

Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:54 pm

by PV1 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:57 am

We had the wonderful opportunity to see two Model 3 RCs on our trip.

:mrgreen:
I'm so jealous of you getting to see 2 up close like that.
We're anxiously awaiting Fridays streaming M 3 deliveries presentations to the first 30 people.
Hopefully many unanswered questions could be laid to rest,
Colors, specs, finishes, interior details etc.
Soon enough!!!
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:37 pm

I couldn't believe the timing. We pulled into Tesla HQ, circled the lot, and just as we were leaving, they pulled in. The funny thing was the group of people by the sign were waiting on a 3, and both cars snuck by before they could turn around :lol: .

Oddly, though, after seeing both the Bolt and the 3, I think I prefer the Bolt. I so want Tesla's charging infrastructure, but the Bolt has a smaller and more manageable footprint. I'm too accustomed to the stub nose to go back to a conventional looking vehicle. Of course, that depends on the 3's specs, which we will know Friday 8-) !
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:22 am

Well, it's here! The live stream was really sparse on details, but there is a wealth of info in the Press Kit.

I'll hold off posting details for now to avoid spoiling it, but if you're looking for details, you'll need to go here.

https://www.tesla.com/presskit
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:33 am

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Re: Tesla Model 3

Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:30 pm

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Re: Tesla Model 3

Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:23 am

Tesla 3 teardown:

https://youtu.be/QCIo8e12sBM

Some of the comments about build quality are worrisome to me.
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:19 am

ChrisEV wrote:Tesla 3 teardown:

Some of the comments about build quality are worrisome to me.


Clearly, this car remains stuck somewhere between pre-production and mass production still. I suspect that when Tesla has cleared the backlog of pre-orders from the poor souls that get the first wave, they will produce a V2 with all that stuff sorted out. It is not a simple task to move from fairly low production to mainstream, and many manufacturers took about 30 years plus. The 'Lean Manufacturing' model around the 'Toyota Production System' took Toyota 30 years to perfect, and they are still working on it, and most have copied it. Cars with those sorts of high level quality issues would not only fail to get far down the line, they wouldn't put them into production until they could be fairly certain those quality issues wouldn't arise at all. Tesla are trying to do 30 years of production development in about 3, so in many ways it is understandable that they are facing challenges in the area (but have done remarkably well considering). It has always been surprising to me that Tesla wanted to be completely vertically integrated, where I would have thought that they may have wanted to pair up with someone like Toyota or VW for the bodywork and fabrication expertise, leaving Tesla to concentrate on what they do best, which is the electric drive hardware, software and production. All this tells me what I already suspected, which is Tesla are a fantastic innovator, but have not yet passed the point where they can commercialise an affordable product at high volumes. This should be reflected in their market capitalisation numbers, but clearly the investment world know something I don't - patent value and first-mover advantage probably - but time could quickly catch up.

Maybe Tesla will even hold their hands up and delay roll-out further in order re-work all the fixes required - otherwise the warranty returns and fixes could become an unmanageable problem for them. The hood release trick in the video above, needing a 12v battery and jump leads is a horrible oversight - not only is that conceptually unfinished, it's downright dangerous - and that is to suppose you can access it to cut the power after a front-end impact (though you may not even need it if the front of the car crumples the hood anyway) - can't understand who signed that off from either an internal design point, or a Federal/ international safety point.
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