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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:31 pm

Note, I changed the title to be more descriptive of how this thread has evolved.

Fuel cells and submarines, just as fuel cells and space, are certainly viable alternatives for these unique applications which are relatively cost-unencumbered. On the other hand, fuel cells and aircraft (note the HY4 has virtually no cargo room) and, especially, fuel cells and cargo ships, are constrained by operating costs, chief among them being end-to-end energy costs (= 'efficiency' of energy conversion). I still haven't seen a good case for the latter.

Delighted to see the Nemo tourboat but can't help but wonder if a simple Lithium pack and electric propulsion would not be much less expensive to both install and operate? All they need to provide is a DCQC at some of the docks the tourboat pulls into to have it be a sustainable continuous operation. With their large length-to-beam ratios, tourboats don't require much energy in their everyday smooth-water usage.
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:13 pm

London Hydrogen Bus: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-38157860

A continuation of the earlier changes:

https://youtu.be/Mm7o61OQg2w

Vs

The London BYD Double Decker Electric Bus:

https://youtu.be/VQM0O9Umu48
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:22 pm

Hydrogen Kangoo per InsideEVs: http://insideevs.com/kangoo-ze-h2-ev-fu ... ge-record/

And Symbio FCell's web page:. http://www.symbiofcell.com/en/
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:29 pm

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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:14 pm

In response to my email, Nikola Motors "Support" wrote: "We have hundreds of positions we will be filling after Christmas as we ramp up. They will be in SLC, UT and posted on our careers page in January. https://nikolamotor.com/careers/jobs ".

It should be exciting to watch. :D
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:28 pm

https://youtu.be/4-J7H_XmmWg

An electric motor in each wheel. . .
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:24 pm

Riversimple contact subscription for those interested in taking test drives, etc.: http://www.riversimple.com/keep-updated ... he-future/
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:12 am

Hydrogen Now reports on the Nikola hydrogen truck and reminds us of the the Vision Industries bankruptcy:

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/index.ph ... ll-trucks/

As reported, hopefully Nikola can avoid a Vision like demise.
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Re: Riversimple and Fuel Cell Discussions

Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:22 pm

BEV vs. Fuel Cell - which is greener? My town was used as a case study for the Stanford University Global Climate and Energy Project (GCEP)
http://www.futurity.org/electric-cars-batteries-fuel-cells-1298342-2/
You'll have to read it for the conclusions. :geek:
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