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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:31 am
by Don
rkarl89203 wrote:I would rather not EVER buy a gas car again...so no Volt for me whatever the price.
I however was extremely impressed with the Bolt EV....just a really nice car.
My point was not to get you to look at buying a Volt - That was just an example of what sort of deal you might get on a Bolt if you waited a couple years when the leases start coming to an end

Leased cars all get the $7500 tax credit (something I'll never understand) but buyers who do not have $7500 worth of tax liability don't get that break, or at least not all of it. Buying a low mileage 2 to 3 year old EV coming off a lease can save you a bundle, starting with the $7500 that the government awarded to the leasing company

I'd like to think I'll never buy another ICE too (but I certainly wouldn't rule out a Volt which can be driven as a pure EV 90% of the time) but after paying nearly $30K as an early adopter for our first iMiEV and then a couple years later getting a much better equipped nearly brand new model for less than half what we paid, buying a new one is something we'll probably never do again either

Whatever we eventually buy to replace one or both of out iMiEV's (Tesla, Bolt or Volt are likely choices) it won't be a new one, that's pretty much for certain

Don

Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:59 pm
by rkarl89203
Misunderstood your comment, sorry.
I agree with your point.
I can truly say i wont buy another ICE car though.

Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 4:10 pm
by JoeS
Here's an assessment by a BoltEV owner who is also an i-MiEV owner (but perhaps not a member of this forum?) -

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1110633_2017-chevy-bolt-ev-electric-car-at-6-months-owners-likes-recommendations

Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 8:04 pm
by Don
Another person who drives in the max regen mode all the time - I wish we had his steering wheel paddle to turn on the brake lights and come to a complete stop. Wonder how hard it would be to rig a paddle by using our brakelight switch terminals?

Don

Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:02 pm
by PV1
I had an opportunity to test drive a Bolt today. I must say that I am impressed.

First off, acceleration is very strong. So strong that I easily chirped the tires on dry pavement while moving and I wasn't all the way into it yet :oops: :mrgreen: . My only concern there is how that will handle snow/ice.

I really like that the two drive modes give the car two completely different feelings. Drive behaves much like the I-MiEV with relatively mild regen and creep, but Low makes it act like a BMW i3 with one-pedal driving and very strong regen. Plus, if that isn't enough, the regen paddle gives you a third, even stronger level of regen and brake lights (as the salesman claimed, never seen if it actually lit them up, though). I could see the brakes on the Bolt outlasting the I-MiEV's.

Interior room is pretty good. It offers more interior space in all dimensions except headroom. Rear headroom is a little tight. My hair hit the door jamb when climbing in. The cloth seats of the LT are quite comfortable, on par with the I-MiEV. I hope this translates into little to no driver fatigue after a long drive (a 90-mile drive in the I-MiEV doesn't wear me out like it does in other cars). Visibility is pretty much on par. I had no trouble backing it back into its spot. The turning radius surprised me, as it is nearly as tight as the I-MiEV's. This is a world of difference from the C-Max with the turning radius of an F-150.

The radio sounded good for the brief test that I did. I'm interested in seeing what Apple CarPlay brings for iPod integration. I didn't notice a pedestrian chirp button like there is in the 1st gen Volt, and there is no constant noise generator, either.

I've been trying to talk myself out of buying another EV as I can't justify needing a longer range, but this drive just made that much more difficult, especially since I just found a good deal on a used Bolt Premier. I have to at least wait to experience a Model 3 first :lol: .

Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:21 am
by PV1
A few more observations.

The Premier model includes a rear armrest with cupholders. The tradeoff is that the leather is not nearly as comfortable as the cloth seats in the LT.

On the instrument panel, there are layout options that give you real basic charge level and efficiency indicator, another that adds a little detail, and a third that tells you max, minimum, and average range remaining as well as power/regen in kW (Joe, next time you drive one, hit the Left arrow button on the wheel, go to Layout, and pick Enhanced. This should answer your question about regen power).

The different wheels between the two trims is mostly paint. The wheel itself is exactly the same, except the Premier wheels have black paint and machined spokes. It rides on Michelin Energy A/S 215/50R17.

Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:56 pm
by PV1
Further Bolt impressions

The LT cloth seats are still more comfortable than the leather and have a very similar feel to the i-MiEV. Driving, visibility, and overall feel are similar but with more power/regen, :idea: which stand at 150 kW of motive power and 50 kW of regen on the paddle. Drive is like Brake mode in the i-MiEV. Pushing the brake pedal in Drive blends regen and friction just like the i-MiEV. The paddle simulates an i3 by bringing on full regen and allowing the Bolt to come to a complete stop. When stopping with the brake pedal in Drive mode, creep stays off until you tap the throttle pedal (may be brake hold feature).

The radio in the LT sounds more like the i-MiEV's radio with equally good sound quality. The Premier radio is more like a Tesla with tweeter and sub configuration. While it also sounds good, there's something missing. Carplay puts nav, music, and phone apps right on the radio. While I couldn't really test it, it looked promising. It doesn't work on my iPod, but that's not an issue as music integration is just as good with the radio itself.

We also did some measurements. The Bolt is very similar in all dimensions to the I-MiEV, being slightly larger in all directions. However, because the rear seat is higher in the Bolt, the I-MiEV wins out on rear headroom. As a correction to an earlier post, there is a pedestrian alert that is speed activated like the I-MiEV, but I couldn't hear it at all (listed on the window sticker as a standard safety feature).

Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:41 pm
by JoeS

Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:19 pm
by PV1

Found me :lol: . (And no, it's not the used one I mentioned.)

I kind of announced it in this thread (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3829#p33828). It was too tempting to pass up. It's kind of difficult to sell people on EVs as a lot of people in my area view the i-MiEV as a toy. When you roll up in a Chevy with 200+ miles of range and 150 kW of go, people take you a bit more seriously. Not to mention that I'll now be saving a lot of wear and tear on the i-MiEV (first car, sentimental value, want it to last forever, etc.), which seems to fall into collector car status with just barely over 2,000 copies in the US and no longer produced. They're about as rare as the Tesla Roadster.

I'm working on a full writeup and wasn't sure if I should post it here or break off a new Bolt thread.

**Update**
Since this thread mostly pertains to following the Bolt up to production start, I'll be starting a new thread highlighting my experience with the Bolt. Other Bolt/i-MiEV owners are welcome to chime in.